Page 47 of 116 FirstFirst ... 3745464748495797 ... LastLast
Results 461 to 470 of 1160

Thread: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police[W:302,693:992]

  1. #461
    Sage
    Kreton's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Colorado Springs
    Last Seen
    11-13-17 @ 08:01 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    6,118

    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use [W:302

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Yes, and from any early assessment of events like these, where we don't have all the facts yet, that tends to be the case, we assume the guilt of the suspect. Of course I also believe that makes us correct in the end in the majority of cases. When you're blindly choosing between police and suspects as to guilt, the safe bet is the suspect is indeed guilty. That stands the test of time and reality.
    If you are saying most criminals are guilty I absolutely agree. Without doubt. But when a cop kills someone their guilt of a crime doesn't mean it was OK to kill them.

    This case for instance. The suspect here was certainly guilty of robbery, however does that make shooting him OK? No day in court. Running at an officer doesn't warrant lethal force in my mind. Now I wasn't there and I can't say for if lethal force was the only option, but in some cases it isn't. And just because some or many are, it is wrong to assume that all are
    “Most people do not listen with the intent to understand; they listen with the intent to reply.”
    Stephen R. Covey


  2. #462
    Sage
    clownboy's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Oregon
    Last Seen
    08-17-16 @ 10:31 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    26,087

    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use [W:302

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    I don't think I follow. Most people who protest, and or riot don't do so because a guy robs someone, but rather the police action after. Warranted or not, cops using force causes civil unrest
    There aren't THAT many riots or protests. I think most police shootings go by without significant public notice. And it isn't the cops causing that unrest, but rather the mob reacting as a mob. What they are reacting to doesn't even have to be the actual events.

    Again, do you think there would have even been protests here if the cop who shot Brown were black himself, or if Brown were white? And that has zero to do with the police and is more the racism of the mob.

  3. #463
    Sage
    clownboy's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Oregon
    Last Seen
    08-17-16 @ 10:31 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    26,087

    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use [W:302

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    If you are saying most criminals are guilty I absolutely agree. Without doubt. But when a cop kills someone their guilt of a crime doesn't mean it was OK to kill them.

    This case for instance. The suspect here was certainly guilty of robbery, however does that make shooting him OK? No day in court. Running at an officer doesn't warrant lethal force in my mind. Now I wasn't there and I can't say for if lethal force was the only option, but in some cases it isn't. And just because some or many are, it is wrong to assume that all are
    That's nice, and we can argue that, but it wasn't at all what we were talking about in my post that you quoted.

  4. #464
    Sage
    Kreton's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Colorado Springs
    Last Seen
    11-13-17 @ 08:01 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    6,118

    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use [W:302

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    There aren't THAT many riots or protests. I think most police shootings go by without significant public notice. And it isn't the cops causing that unrest, but rather the mob reacting as a mob. What they are reacting to doesn't even have to be the actual events.

    Again, do you think there would have even been protests here if the cop who shot Brown were black himself, or if Brown were white? And that has zero to do with the police and is more the racism of the mob.
    I agree. Most people only pay attention to minority victims . I am far from saying that is right. And when we as a society do focus on a white victim many assume it's because they are white and if they were black we wouldn't. It's retarded and goes back my first post saying that most these cases are not racially motivated. Race is a factor in the reaction not usually the event.
    “Most people do not listen with the intent to understand; they listen with the intent to reply.”
    Stephen R. Covey


  5. #465
    Educator
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Location
    Colorado Springs, CO
    Last Seen
    10-23-14 @ 02:55 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    945

    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use [W:302

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    If you are saying most criminals are guilty I absolutely agree. Without doubt. But when a cop kills someone their guilt of a crime doesn't mean it was OK to kill them.

    This case for instance. The suspect here was certainly guilty of robbery, however does that make shooting him OK? No day in court. Running at an officer doesn't warrant lethal force in my mind. Now I wasn't there and I can't say for if lethal force was the only option, but in some cases it isn't. And just because some or many are, it is wrong to assume that all are
    You couldn't POSSIBLY mean that we should wait until the facts are known before we judge, are you?

    What a novel idea ...

  6. #466
    Sage

    Mason66's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:57 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    19,453

    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use mo...

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    Did Mr. Brown have a history of violent behavior before that day?
    Why would that matter?

    Does he get a pass if it is his first time?

  7. #467
    Sage
    Kreton's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Colorado Springs
    Last Seen
    11-13-17 @ 08:01 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    6,118

    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use [W:302

    Quote Originally Posted by GBFAN View Post
    You couldn't POSSIBLY mean that we should wait until the facts are known before we judge, are you?

    What a novel idea ...
    The facts will be tough. So many are trying to twist facts to fit an agenda.
    “Most people do not listen with the intent to understand; they listen with the intent to reply.”
    Stephen R. Covey


  8. #468
    Sage

    Mason66's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:57 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    19,453

    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use mo...

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    I saw it. It wasn't bum rushing an armed cop violent. It was high school hallway violent.
    What is the difference?

  9. #469
    Sage
    clownboy's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Oregon
    Last Seen
    08-17-16 @ 10:31 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    26,087

    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use [W:302

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    The facts will be tough. So many are trying to twist facts to fit an agenda.
    Or to repair their early misguided take on the event.

  10. #470
    Global Moderator
    Moderator

    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    36,903

    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use [W:302

    Brown's mother wants Wilson arrested: After Brown autopsy, mom wants officer arrested

Page 47 of 116 FirstFirst ... 3745464748495797 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •