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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use [W:302

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Lol...he definitely did before before the Cop stopped him.

    And given his predisposition to ignore the law and to bully those weaker than him, there's a Good chance he had a violent personality.
    Is a guy with a gun pointed at you weaker?
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    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    You don't just wake up one day and choke a store clerk to get away with a robbery. The only thing a lack of a record tells us is that thus far he's avoided arrest and/or his record is sealed.
    That's right. We don't know.
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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use [W:302

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    There are a few things that become apparent when these types of scenarios present themselves.

    1. Any time something happens where a white person and a black person are involved people auto assume racism.

    The fact is we live in a culturally diverse country where blacks, whites, Browns, yellows, red and every other race and mix exist. They are going to situations, even unfortunate ones where different races interact with one another. That does not automatically mean race is a factor or a cause. This case does not seem racially motivated. It is more a case of a cop shooting a suspect.

    2. Every time these things come about many people instantly take the same side they always do. "right wingers" always seem to side with the cop/shooter and the "left wingers" always seem to side with the victim/non cop.

    I don't understand why so many people can't put their political allegiances aside and recognize that not every shooting is justified and not every shooting is wrong. Can anyone explain to me why every shooting has to be the same?

    3. These cases have little to do with the shooter/victim or justice. It only has to do with political alliances.

    Somehow the left thinks that cops are always wrong. And they exploit people's fears of authority. It seems they use these situations to make people of all races feel like they are going to be next. It's always an abuse of power and race and if you don't agree you are a bigot. The right is no better. They use these instances to push the agenda that criminals are going to kill us all and we all need to take arms, and kill at the slightest threat and the left is going to take away your right to defend yourself.

    It's sad how often these sad situations are exploited. Not for the betterment of mankind or the United States but rather to push a social and/or political agenda.

    Very few look at any situation openly and determine right or wrong. They see cop shooting and they assume right or wrong immediately and determine right and wrong based solely on that. Ignoring the full picture and focusing on what they want see. People are saying this guy was a gentle man, who was on his way to college and going to see his grandmother. Others act like he was a horrible person deserving of death.

    Look at the whole picture. Leave your political biases aside. Understand what happened before assuming guilt or innocence for either guy.

    While I appreciate the sentiment I find the broad brush strokes undermine the point you are trying to make. God knows I am guilty of the same numerous times, but if you want to take down the wall you can certainly start by dropping the categorical indictments of the "left" and "right" because in most cases you will find the lines are far more blurred than that.
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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use mo...

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    He was 18, records much further back than that day would be sealed, assuming there were any records.

    However, there is video of him engaging in violent behavior 10 minutes earlier and the guy that says he was surrendering was with him during the robbery.
    Did the clerk receive medical treatment?
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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use [W:302

    From WaPo:

    FERGUSON, Mo. — An unarmed black teenager had marijuana in his system when he was fatally shot six times by a white police officer, two people familiar with the official county autopsy of Michael Brown said Monday.

    The autopsy by St. Louis County chief medical examiner Mary Case, released to state prosecutors late Friday, found that Brown, 18, had six gunshot wounds to the head and chest and was shot from the front, the people said. They spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of Brown’s death, which has triggered violent protests in this St. Louis suburb that continued Sunday night.

    In a brief interview with The Washington Post, Case declined to comment on specifics of her examination of Brown’s body but said she welcomes the two other autopsies being performed. One was done Sunday by forensic pathologists Michael Baden and Shawn Parcells, and Case said the second — ordered on Sunday by Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. — will be done by Pentagon medical examiners. County autopsy: Michael Brown shot 6 times from front, had marijuana in system - The Washington Post

    And I don't understand why a third autopsy is being conducted.

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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use [W:302

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    From WaPo:

    FERGUSON, Mo. — An unarmed black teenager had marijuana in his system when he was fatally shot six times by a white police officer, two people familiar with the official county autopsy of Michael Brown said Monday.

    The autopsy by St. Louis County chief medical examiner Mary Case, released to state prosecutors late Friday, found that Brown, 18, had six gunshot wounds to the head and chest and was shot from the front, the people said. They spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of Brown’s death, which has triggered violent protests in this St. Louis suburb that continued Sunday night.

    In a brief interview with The Washington Post, Case declined to comment on specifics of her examination of Brown’s body but said she welcomes the two other autopsies being performed. One was done Sunday by forensic pathologists Michael Baden and Shawn Parcells, and Case said the second — ordered on Sunday by Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. — will be done by Pentagon medical examiners. County autopsy: Michael Brown shot 6 times from front, had marijuana in system - The Washington Post

    And I don't understand why a third autopsy is being conducted.
    Because holder wants to hang a cop and cant rely on the state exam nor a private exam

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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use [W:302

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    Is a guy with a gun pointed at you weaker?
    When convinced they won't fire upon you, yes. Never met a real bully before?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    That's right. We don't know.
    Yep, we do know that he had no problem being violent that day.

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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use [W:302

    Quote Originally Posted by Sabanist View Post
    You are partially right, but i dont think people take the side of the cop due to being right wing. They take the side of the cop because he has been trained, likely educated, has no motive, presumably has passed a background check, and the suspect in this case has already been exposed as a criminal. This is aside from the fact that in 99.9 pct of officer involved shootings, the cop was in the right.
    However you want to justify it, the right sides with the cop almost always regardless of the circumstances. Not all, but a large amount. And not just cops. Any shooter who claims self defense.
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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use [W:302

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    However you want to justify it, the right sides with the cop almost always regardless of the circumstances. Not all, but a large amount. And not just cops. Any shooter who claims self defense.
    Makes sense, the right generally favors order.

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