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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    Did Mr. Brown have a history of violent behavior before that day?
    You don't just wake up one day and choke a store clerk to get away with a robbery. The only thing a lack of a record tells us is that thus far he's avoided arrest and/or his record is sealed.

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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use [W:302

    There are a few things that become apparent when these types of scenarios present themselves.

    1. Any time something happens where a white person and a black person are involved people auto assume racism.

    The fact is we live in a culturally diverse country where blacks, whites, Browns, yellows, red and every other race and mix exist. They are going to situations, even unfortunate ones where different races interact with one another. That does not automatically mean race is a factor or a cause. This case does not seem racially motivated. It is more a case of a cop shooting a suspect.

    2. Every time these things come about many people instantly take the same side they always do. "right wingers" always seem to side with the cop/shooter and the "left wingers" always seem to side with the victim/non cop.

    I don't understand why so many people can't put their political allegiances aside and recognize that not every shooting is justified and not every shooting is wrong. Can anyone explain to me why every shooting has to be the same?

    3. These cases have little to do with the shooter/victim or justice. It only has to do with political alliances.

    Somehow the left thinks that cops are always wrong. And they exploit people's fears of authority. It seems they use these situations to make people of all races feel like they are going to be next. It's always an abuse of power and race and if you don't agree you are a bigot. The right is no better. They use these instances to push the agenda that criminals are going to kill us all and we all need to take arms, and kill at the slightest threat and the left is going to take away your right to defend yourself.

    It's sad how often these sad situations are exploited. Not for the betterment of mankind or the United States but rather to push a social and/or political agenda.

    Very few look at any situation openly and determine right or wrong. They see cop shooting and they assume right or wrong immediately and determine right and wrong based solely on that. Ignoring the full picture and focusing on what they want see. People are saying this guy was a gentle man, who was on his way to college and going to see his grandmother. Others act like he was a horrible person deserving of death.

    Look at the whole picture. Leave your political biases aside. Understand what happened before assuming guilt or innocence for either guy.
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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use more t

    Why don't you calm down Red Baron, or are you always this emotional?

    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
    Show that supposed behavior NOW!!!!!!!!!! I ****ing dare you!



    Sterotypes are mostly based on truths.



    Yeah, maybe for someone who likes defending racists. Turning up before the facts are known, to defend the officer no matter what may come up, from a guy who previously posted similar stuff, is racist.



    I didnt say that you were a southerner. show me where I did?!

    Why do you constantly insist that I posted things that I didnt even post?!

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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use [W:302

    Quote Originally Posted by TobyOne View Post
    Why don't you calm down Red Baron, or are you always this emotional?
    You should wait until he really gets going.

    It's the Beer Hall Putsch all over again.

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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use [W:302

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Lol...he definitely did before before the Cop stopped him.

    And given his predisposition to ignore the law and to bully those weaker than him, there's a Good chance he had a violent personality.
    yeah, I'd say that old man he strong armed in the store would back up that statement.
    what really scares me is if the officers account is true then the witnesses are lying through their TEETH. What does that say for the future of race relations?

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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use [W:302

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    There are a few things that become apparent when these types of scenarios present themselves.

    1. Any time something happens where a white person and a black person are involved people auto assume racism.

    The fact is we live in a culturally diverse country where blacks, whites, Browns, yellows, red and every other race and mix exist. They are going to situations, even unfortunate ones where different races interact with one another. That does not automatically mean race is a factor or a cause. This case does not seem racially motivated. It is more a case of a cop shooting a suspect.

    2. Every time these things come about many people instantly take the same side they always do. "right wingers" always seem to side with the cop/shooter and the "left wingers" always seem to side with the victim/non cop.

    I don't understand why so many people can't put their political allegiances aside and recognize that not every shooting is justified and not every shooting is wrong. Can anyone explain to me why every shooting has to be the same?

    3. These cases have little to do with the shooter/victim or justice. It only has to do with political alliances.

    Somehow the left thinks that cops are always wrong. And they exploit people's fears of authority. It seems they use these situations to make people of all races feel like they are going to be next. It's always an abuse of power and race and if you don't agree you are a bigot. The right is no better. They use these instances to push the agenda that criminals are going to kill us all and we all need to take arms, and kill at the slightest threat and the left is going to take away your right to defend yourself.

    It's sad how often these sad situations are exploited. Not for the betterment of mankind or the United States but rather to push a social and/or political agenda.

    Very few look at any situation openly and determine right or wrong. They see cop shooting and they assume right or wrong immediately and determine right and wrong based solely on that. Ignoring the full picture and focusing on what they want see. People are saying this guy was a gentle man, who was on his way to college and going to see his grandmother. Others act like he was a horrible person deserving of death.

    Look at the whole picture. Leave your political biases aside. Understand what happened before assuming guilt or innocence for either guy.
    That should be required reading front page, every media. Excellent post!

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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use mo...

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    Did Mr. Brown have a history of violent behavior before that day?
    He was 18, records much further back than that day would be sealed, assuming there were any records.

    However, there is video of him engaging in violent behavior 10 minutes earlier and the guy that says he was surrendering was with him during the robbery.
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    Sterotypes are mostly based on truths.

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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use [W:302

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    yeah, I'd say that old man he strong armed in the store would back up that statement.
    what really scares me is if the officers account is true then the witnesses are lying through their TEETH. What does that say for the future of race relations?
    I've watched COPS shows from all around the world, and time after time, with almost no exceptions, people lie to the COPS. Witnesses and perpetrators. Different cultures, different countries, all the same in that respect.

    Police know worldwide that they'll be lied to regularly throughout their day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
    Show that supposed behavior NOW!!!!!!!!!! I ****ing dare you!
    German calls others Klan members then gets fearsome internet muscles when anyone hints at accusing him of anything. He is approaching the hypocrisy singularity.

    Sterotypes are mostly based on truths.
    WHAT??!! Oh good Lord, German, step away from the keyboard.

    Yeah, maybe for someone who likes defending racists. Turning up before the facts are known, to defend the officer no matter what may come up, from a guy who previously posted similar stuff, is racist.
    You know what you and racists have in common? A strong trust in stereotypes...

    I didnt say that you were a southerner. show me where I did?!
    You claimed that "a bunch of southerners" are coming in here to defend the police officer. Granted, I wouldn't say that you were calling us all southerners for defending the police officer as much as it was just you saying something monumentally moronic and easily refutable.

    Why do you constantly insist that I posted things that I didnt even post?!
    I know, right!? Especially when you haven't really been shy with doling out ammunition for the opposition.
    Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he stops voting for the Free Fish party.

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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use [W:302

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    There are a few things that become apparent when these types of scenarios present themselves.

    1. Any time something happens where a white person and a black person are involved people auto assume racism.

    The fact is we live in a culturally diverse country where blacks, whites, Browns, yellows, red and every other race and mix exist. They are going to situations, even unfortunate ones where different races interact with one another. That does not automatically mean race is a factor or a cause. This case does not seem racially motivated. It is more a case of a cop shooting a suspect.

    2. Every time these things come about many people instantly take the same side they always do. "right wingers" always seem to side with the cop/shooter and the "left wingers" always seem to side with the victim/non cop.

    I don't understand why so many people can't put their political allegiances aside and recognize that not every shooting is justified and not every shooting is wrong. Can anyone explain to me why every shooting has to be the same?

    3. These cases have little to do with the shooter/victim or justice. It only has to do with political alliances.

    Somehow the left thinks that cops are always wrong. And they exploit people's fears of authority. It seems they use these situations to make people of all races feel like they are going to be next. It's always an abuse of power and race and if you don't agree you are a bigot. The right is no better. They use these instances to push the agenda that criminals are going to kill us all and we all need to take arms, and kill at the slightest threat and the left is going to take away your right to defend yourself.

    It's sad how often these sad situations are exploited. Not for the betterment of mankind or the United States but rather to push a social and/or political agenda.

    Very few look at any situation openly and determine right or wrong. They see cop shooting and they assume right or wrong immediately and determine right and wrong based solely on that. Ignoring the full picture and focusing on what they want see. People are saying this guy was a gentle man, who was on his way to college and going to see his grandmother. Others act like he was a horrible person deserving of death.

    Look at the whole picture. Leave your political biases aside. Understand what happened before assuming guilt or innocence for either guy.
    You are partially right, but i dont think people take the side of the cop due to being right wing. They take the side of the cop because he has been trained, likely educated, has no motive, presumably has passed a background check, and the suspect in this case has already been exposed as a criminal. This is aside from the fact that in 99.9 pct of officer involved shootings, the cop was in the right.

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