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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use more t

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    I'm no sure about that. I know that in the US safety sensitive jobs come under random drug screening union or no. Moreover, whenever there is an accident a drug and alcohol screen is maditory. I'll bet the cop as screened immediately.

    As for the autopsy, the worm has certainly turned. There's always much more to story and we're finidng that out now. The shot to the top of Brown's head was reported on CBS This Morning a result of his head moving in a downward postion, either from surrender or attack. Teh firing pistol is also being reported as being at least two to three feet away. The officer was treated for injuries as well so there certainly is much more going on here. Brown was not running away with hands up, that's for sure.
    For Brown to be charging, he'd have to be a distance from the officer. That would mean that initially, Brown fled. So the charge theory means that Brown ran away first, then turned and charge the officer after being shot at already?

    That theory doesn't make a whole lotta sense.
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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use more t

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Wait...the cop is white?

    I kind of think the rhetoric has been more about bad cop no donut than about white vs black. Certainly considering the reality that black cops have been known to shoot unarmed white folk before. But the one thing that you said that IS correct is that we simply dont know. I dont even think we have the cop version of the story. I have said all along..it may or may not be a righteous shoot. If so...OK. If not...OK. Thats what the courts and justice system is for.
    Let's see your cite for this..... Show us this is a problem of some degree of frequency, which is what this statement implies.

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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use more t

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    I watched the press conference by the doctor who performed the autopsy. Was Brown shot in the front or the back? If the front, does that mean he wasn't running away? If there is no gunpowder on Brown's exposed skin by the gunshots, doesn't that mean he was not close to the officer when he was shot?
    The police officer account says Brown was charging him when he fired. This doesn't require point blank range. The alternative scenario pushed by the riot mongers is that Brown was shot in the back and then got on his knees and pleaded for the police officer not to shoot. The second account is a lie and is why the community is now destroying itself.

    If this autopsy, performed by Dr. Michael M. Baden who is one of the best pathologist in the world, is confirmed by the other autopsies, this cop might spend some time with inmates who look a lot like the kid he murdered.
    This autopsy doesn't prove any of your allegations. It disproves the witness account from which your narrative was taken.
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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use more t

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I'm not a doctor, and certainly not well versed in autopsy procedures, but I have to believe that a body is not left "untouched" when an autopsy is conducted. In order for wounds to be properly measured, photographed, etc. and the skin to be examined for injuries, perhaps small cuts or bruises, etc., the body would have to be washed of all blood, dirt, and other substances that would likely be on a body shot, bloodied, and lying in a street for a significant amount of time.

    Perhaps someone with direct experience in the field will weigh in - until then, I'm not prepared to accept that a body remains untouched until everyone who may want to examine it gets a shot at it.
    You're being intentionally conflictive. Not "ANYONE" that wants a shot at it, gets a shot at it. Photographs, up close and detailed are part of the autopsy procedure and are conducted before, during and after the autopsy has been completed, notes are made along the way, measurements are taken, if a wound must be modified for conclusion, the precise reason is stated in the report, with a thorough description of the wound prior to any alterations. Chemical compounds found on and in the body are tested, as with clothing. To satisfy an independent autopsy, all of that (copies) goes with the body for the independent autopsy, which enables the independent team to virtually view the body as the State team had. any variations of this cast doubt and suspicion that an astute Attorney will exploit. I just completed a 12 month Federal Grand jury service and have now some knowledge of this precise thing.
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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use more t

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    The police officer account says Brown was charging him when he fired. This doesn't require point blank range. The alternative scenario pushed by the riot mongers is that Brown was shot in the back and then got on his knees and pleaded for the police officer not to shoot. The second account is a lie and is why the community is now destroying itself.



    This autopsy doesn't prove any of your allegations. It disproves the witness account from which your narrative was taken.
    Actually it does not disproves the witnesses.

    Until we know exactly how many shots were fired, we don't know if Brown stopped and turned after being shot at while he trying to get away and the cop simply missed. In fact, the autopsy states all six shots were not the cause of all of the wounds.
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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use more t

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times; police use more tear gas on protesters | Fox News

    So, the pig just basically was enraged that he got his ass whooped, and decided to empty his pistol into someone kneeling on the ground with his hands in the air in surrender.

    Kind of like a gangland murder.
    Six shots is not empyting the weapon on any semi auto used by any police department I know of.

    They all use magazines with ten rounds or more capacity.

    The autopsy shwos that all the shots came from the front while Brown was UPRIGHT. It clearly disputes that his hands were raised in an act of surrender.

    In fact it supports the officer not the race baiting crowds.

    It is not definitive but it is damaging to people making claims like yours.

    The officer may still be in the wrong and may still be charged but it is hilarious seeing someone try to spin the limited evidence avialable to the public which would suggest otherwise.

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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use more t

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    For Brown to be charging, he'd have to be a distance from the officer. That would mean that initially, Brown fled. So the charge theory means that Brown ran away first, then turned and charge the officer after being shot at already?

    That theory doesn't make a whole lotta sense.
    Sure it does

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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use more t

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You're being intentionally conflictive. Not "ANYONE" that wants a shot at it, gets a shot at it. Photographs, up close and detailed are part of the autopsy procedure and are conducted before, during and after the autopsy has been completed, notes are made along the way, measurements are taken, if a wound must be modified for conclusion, the precise reason is stated in the report, with a thorough description of the wound prior to any alterations. Chemical compounds found on and in the body are tested, as with clothing. To satisfy an independent autopsy, all of that (copies) goes with the body for the independent autopsy, which enables the independent teem to virtually view the body as the State team had. any variations of this cast doubt and suspicion that an astute Attorney will exploit. I just completed a 12 month Federal Grand jury service and have now some knowledge of this precise thing.
    Fair enough - but if I follow your logic, Dr. Baden didn't conduct a complete autopsy because by his very words he didn't examine the clothing. He states in his report that there was no evidence of gunpowder residue on the body but qualifies that by saying that to be certain, an examination of the clothing would have to take place. That seems to counter what you've presented, although I do appreciate the insight.
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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use more t

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    It's possible. We don't know for sure, all we know so far is that this is dividing along typical partisan lines in which the conservatives believe the white guy.

    I don't even believe that conservatives are racist, but when they all line up to defend the white guy without fail....it makes it seem that way.
    This is not a black and white issue. This is a criminal and police issue.

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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use more t

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Bryan P. Williams, the cop identified, took to his personal Facebook account and changed his first name to “Scooby” in hope it would keep the public off his tail. The police department is denying this is in fact the killer and is still refusing to release the name of the officer until their investigation is complete.

    The cop isn't Bryan Williams, as we all know. It's Darrell Wilson.

    But people for whatever reason aren't paying attention to their links, and are posting Bryan Wiliams picture - again.
    The name actually released was Willmer, not Williams. It's even in the photo. The idiots who wrote the story wrote Williams. That website is a joke.
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