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‘I just kept asking: Why am I being arrested for sitting in my aunt’s driveway?’

It's one thing for the police to limit travel on the public roads in an emergency. It is quite another for the police to have any decision on if I am inside or outside of my own house on my own property.
 
Henrin said:
If the objective is to make people defy the law even more, then yeah, the curfew worked great.
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Not at all.

You failed to clarify the reason for the curfew you experienced. And we all can pretty much assume it wasn't to stop anybody from getting high or drunk on their porch like you say you did.

You stated you did not do a few things, which was the purpose of the curfew in this situation.
Henrin said:
Guess how much property damage I did that night? None. Guess how people I hurt in any sort of way? None.
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You exemplified exactly the purpose of this curfew and how it worked.
 
Mr. Invisible said:
Please explain to me why they should be arrested for smoking in a driveway, not being a bother to anyone. It really isn't making sense.
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TheDemSocialist said:
Sitting on your drive way smoking a cig is illegal now?
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It figures someone wants to step late into the game with nonsense.


Stop with the spin. It had nothing to do with smoking.
They failed to disperse after curfew was in effect, they were in a mode of transportation and were not on their own property.


Do you two not know what curfew generally means?
 
Excon said:
Not at all.

You failed to clarify the reason for the curfew you experienced. And we all can pretty much assume it wasn't to stop anybody from getting high or drunk on their porch like you say you did.



You stated you did not do a few things, which was the purpose of the curfew in this situation.
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You exemplified exactly the purpose of this curfew and how it worked.
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Oh please, if I had any intent that night of harming anyone or their property the curfew wouldn't have stopped me. Why would something that I have zero respect for stop me in the first place?
 
Henrin said:
Oh please, if I had any intent that night of harming anyone or their property the curfew wouldn't have stopped me. Why would something that I have zero respect for stop me in the first place?
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And yet you didn't.
Go figure.

The point being, in this case, the curfew kept the thugs/criminals off the streets and from committing property damage and looting.
So despite your dislike of it, the curfew worked during those hours.


And lets not forget that this curfew was imposed for a reason.
Had these assholes acted like decent human beings we would never have gotten to this point.
 
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Excon said:
And yet you didn't.
Go figure.

The point being, in this case, the curfew kept the thugs/criminals off the streets and from committing property damage and looting.
So despite your dislike of it, the curfew worked during those hours.


And lets not forget that this curfew was imposed for a reason.
Had these assholes acted like decent human beings we would never have gotten to this point.
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Nothing I have found shows any sort of correlation between lowering crime rates and curfews. Do you have proof that the curfew lowered the crime rate?
 
Excon said:


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It figures someone wants to step late into the game with nonsense.


Stop with the spin. It had nothing to do with smoking.
They failed to disperse after curfew was in effect, they were in a mode of transportation and were not on their own property.


Do you two not know what curfew generally means?
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Excuse me. Sittin in your private car, on a private drive, not on public property (to where the curfew is in place), smoking a cigarette, is now illegal?
 
Henrin said:
Nothing I have found shows any sort of correlation between lowering crime rates and curfews. Do you have proof that the curfew lowered the crime rate?
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Again:
The point being, in this case, the curfew kept the thugs/criminals off the streets and from committing property damage and looting.
So despite your dislike of it, the curfew worked during those hours.​

Well nothing happened, did it?

“Last night’s curfew — I think everybody worked well,” Nixon said on CNN’s “State of the Union.” “We’re always disappointed when things aren’t perfect. But thousands of people spoke last night, thousands of people marched, and [there was] not a single gunshot fired by a member of law enforcement last night.”
State officials defend Ferguson actions as Justice Department orders new autopsy - The Washington Post​
 
Excon said:


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It figures someone wants to step late into the game with nonsense.


Stop with the spin. It had nothing to do with smoking.
They failed to disperse after curfew was in effect, they were in a mode of transportation and were not on their own property.


Do you two not know what curfew generally means?
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Failure to disperse on private property.... That sounds pretty damn ridiculous. Sounds like you simply have disdain for the people protesting and are giving the cops a blank check because you are biased.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Excuse me. Sittin in your private car, on a private drive, not on public property (to where the curfew is in place), smoking a cigarette, is now illegal?
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As you were already told: It is not about smoking, so stop with the spin.

Do you, or do you not know, in general what curfew means?
It does not mean sitting in a mode of transportation in a driveway.
 
Excon said:
As you were already told: It is not about smoking, so stop with the spin.

Do you, or do you not know, in general what curfew means?
It does not mean sitting in a mode of transportation in a driveway.
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Did I say it was?
Again my whole quote was this: Sittin in your private car, on a private drive, not on public property (to where the curfew is in place), smoking a cigarette, is now illegal?

-Please dont selective quote againe
 
dirtpoorchris said:
Failure to disperse on private property.... That sounds pretty damn ridiculous. Sounds like you simply have disdain for the people protesting and are giving the cops a blank check because you are biased.
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Sound like you do not know what curfew means or how it applies do private property. And they were in a mode of transportation in a driveway. It could even be said that shows intent to drive off.

This was a declared emergency. Sorry you don't like it, but they were playing a game much like you now are doing.
They knew better and tried to push the limits and are now crying foul because they were caught.
There arrest was justified.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Did I say it was?
Again my whole quote was this: Sittin in your private car, on a private drive, not on public property (to where the curfew is in place), smoking a cigarette, is now illegal?
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And again stop with the spin.
Smoking has nothing to do with it. You continuing to included that which has nothing to do with it is absurdly ridiculous.

And where do you get this idea that in a declared State Of Emergency that a Curfew only applies to public property? :doh
I got to here this.




TheDemSocialist said:
Please dont selective quote againe
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:lamo Not even.
And what the **** are you talking about? I quoted your whole post.

And even if I hadn't, I am replying to that which I quote. So push on with your absurd nonsense.
 
Excon said:
And again stop with the spin.
Smoking has nothing to do with it. You continuing to included that which has nothing to do with it is absurdly ridiculous.

And where do you get this idea that in a declared State Of Emergency that a Curfew only applies to public property? :doh
I got to here this.




:lamo Not even.
I speak to that which I quote.
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Then let me take the smoking part out of the question: Sittin in your private car, on a private drive, not on public property (to where the curfew is in place), is now illegal?
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Then let me take the smoking part out of the question: Sittin in your private car, on a private drive, not on public property (to where the curfew is in place), is now illegal?
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And again.
Where do you get this idea that in a declared State Of Emergency that a Curfew only applies to public property?
I got to here this.
 
Excon said:
And again.
Where do you get this idea that in a declared State Of Emergency that a Curfew only applies to public property?
I got to here this.
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As you should know executive orders even at state and national level only apply to public property not private.. BUt if you want to read the exec order itself: https://governor.mo.gov/news/archiv...rfew-place-protect-public-safety-and-security

Tell me again how someone sitting in a car, on private property is an endangerment to public property...
 
MaggieD said:
Let's see. It was two hours after curfew. Five guys were sitting in a car on private property in street view. And not one of them lived in the house. Sounds like they broke curfew to me. You??
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No. Because private property is not public property.
 
I find it difficult to believe that the conditions of any curfew could constitutionally require people to stay indoors. However, I can believe it might require them to remain on private property, meaning stay off the streets, and off the sidewalks too. I wonder if Hampton and friends planned to spend the night at this Aunt's house in order to avoid violating the curfew.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
As you should know executive orders even at state and national level only apply to public property not private.. BUt if you want to read the exec order itself: https://governor.mo.gov/news/archiv...rfew-place-protect-public-safety-and-security

Tell me again how someone sitting in a car, on private property is an endangerment to public property...
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:doh
And again.
Where do you get this idea that in a declared State Of Emergency that a Curfew only applies to public property?


That was so funny. You pointed to nothing that supports your argument.


That is like some nut saying here, https://www.google.com/ that is my proof.
iLOL
:doh
 
Excon said:
:doh
And again.
Where do you get this idea that in a declared State Of Emergency that a Curfew only applies to public property?
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The United States Constitution... A little thing called federalism..
 
TheDemSocialist said:
The United States Constitution... A little thing called federalism..
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I see. You can't support your assertion. Go figure.

Let me help you out with the general meaning and understanding of Curfew.



cur·few
ˈkərˌfyo͞o/
noun
noun: curfew; plural noun: curfews

a regulation requiring people to remain indoors between specified hours, typically at night.
"a dusk-to-dawn curfew"
the hour designated as the beginning of a curfew.
"to be out after curfew without permission was to risk punishment"
a daily signal indicating the start of curfew.​
https://www.google.com/search?q=Cur...a:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=rcs​
 
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Excon said:
I see. You can't support your assertion. Go figure.
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You are seriously denying property rights? Wanna know how that holds up to the 5th amendment? For the "conservative" you are, you are quite the ****ty conservative? Or is that just cuz they are black?
 
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