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    Re: ‘I just kept asking: Why am I being arrested for sitting in my aunt’s driveway?’

    Quote Originally Posted by ~SAL View Post
    I gotta ask here, how high does one's IQ have to be in order to fully comprehend that there has been death and destruction and now a curfew is in place for the good of everyone?

    At a certain point I have to say, if you have no common sense, if the need to be defiant, or stupid over-rides basic common sense, I have no further sympathy.

    With all that has occurred in this community WHY do people have to stretch the limit out?

    They guy does not deserve to die for being stupid, but he didn't so I say, man up be glad you are still breathing and don't be a wiener.

    wow hey dude, there's a curfew, it not be pertaining to me though, I be right in a car, in my auntie's driveway smokin'...they be arrestin' me, not my fault bro

    yes it is, and if you need an explanation here as to why, your road is going to be a rocky one in the real world
    It is the job of the police to handle the demands of their service. They should not tell me as a customer that I must say inside because they can not deal with the demand for their service. If that is the case they are not serving their purpose and failing their customers.

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    Re: ‘I just kept asking: Why am I being arrested for sitting in my aunt’s driveway?’

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    The guy was not protesting or rioting. He was in his driveway. Why are cops driving by looters yet stopping for people in their own drive way? Common man. Its obvious the curfew was meant for protesters and looters. If he didnt leave the home premises then he didnt violate curfew. Even a kid can sit on his porch as long as he wants and cops cant do anything about it, even if children are susceptible to "non-rioting" curfews.
    Buddy was only sitting in his car, minding his own business. Agreed. However, think about the big picture here, a curfew has been placed, police behaviour has been put into question, protesters behaviour has been questioned, why oh why, take a chance with your life for a cigarette? Why pick now to be defiant, is buddies life worth being right... I say no...if you have to smoke do so from the house with your window up and your head out, I don't care. A curfew is just that. This is exactly what that black preacher was talking about in the other thread...don't do stupid things...use your head. Stay safe.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    It is the job of the police to handle the demands of their service. They should not tell me as a customer that I must say inside because they can not deal with the demand for their service. If that is the case they are not serving their purpose and failing their customers.
    okay kudos to you, if you thinking dying for a cigarette in your car is worth being right. I personally am into choosing my battles and living to fight another day, when I can win.
    Bottom line, might is right, they have the curfew and the fire power, you have one life...why waste it?

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    Re: ‘I just kept asking: Why am I being arrested for sitting in my aunt’s driveway?’

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    It is the job of the police to handle the demands of their service. They should not tell me as a customer that I must say inside because they can not deal with the demand for their service. If that is the case they are not serving their purpose and failing their customers.
    The cops have a responsibility to maintain a generally safe environment for the population at large. Under the circumstances in Ferguson that is requiring unusual tactics and procedures. There are people in Ferguson who are not part of the local community and have come there specifically to start trouble. Since the cops can't readily separate those people from the local population they, at the behest of the State government, have imposed a curfew.

    While the right of the people to peaceably assemble must not be infringed the operative word is "peaceably". Actions such as causing property damage and tossing bottle at cops isn't peaceable. While some in the crowd were certainly not causing problems others were so, at that point, the whole crowd is deemed to be less than peaceable.

    I would also like to point out that a lot of the folks who are pissed off about the cops in Ferguson are the same ones who were seeking to have the Bundy Ranch protesters hauled off even though at that event no property was destroyed and nobody got shot.

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    Re: ‘I just kept asking: Why am I being arrested for sitting in my aunt’s driveway?’

    Quote Originally Posted by ~SAL View Post
    okay kudos to you, if you thinking dying for a cigarette in your car is worth being right. I personally am into choosing my battles and living to fight another day, when I can win. Bottom line, might is right, they have the curfew and the fire power, you have one life...why waste it?
    At some we need to stand against the government blaming the citizens for their own failings and this is a good time as any. It also just doesn't make any sense in the first place. The police are having serious problems in the area with their customers and here they are proving them right by stepping on them one little bit more by forcing them all to stay inside.

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    Re: ‘I just kept asking: Why am I being arrested for sitting in my aunt’s driveway?’

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    At some we need to stand against the government blaming the citizens for their own failings and this is a good time as any. It also just doesn't make any sense in the first place. The police are having serious problems in the area with their customers and here they are proving them right by stepping on them one little bit more by forcing them all to stay inside.
    Why do you keep using the term "customer"? We don't hire cops to do whatever we want. We hire them to maintain a safe public area. If we're stirring **** up and then asking them to walk away that isn't a cop problem. It's an "us" problem.

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    Re: ‘I just kept asking: Why am I being arrested for sitting in my aunt’s driveway?’

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    The cops have a responsibility to maintain a generally safe environment for the population at large. Under the circumstances in Ferguson that is requiring unusual tactics and procedures. There are people in Ferguson who are not part of the local community and have come there specifically to start trouble. Since the cops can't readily separate those people from the local population they, at the behest of the State government, have imposed a curfew.

    While the right of the people to peaceably assemble must not be infringed the operative word is "peaceably". Actions such as causing property damage and tossing bottle at cops isn't peaceable. While some in the crowd were certainly not causing problems others were so, at that point, the whole crowd is deemed to be less than peaceable.

    I would also like to point out that a lot of the folks who are pissed off about the cops in Ferguson are the same ones who were seeking to have the Bundy Ranch protesters hauled off even though at that event no property was destroyed and nobody got shot.
    When the government sets a curfew they are not just stepping on the peoples right to assembly, but their liberty at large. The people become prisoners of their own homes and if they dare to even sit in their own drive way the police will come in and arrest them. Why is a police force that can't even keep peace out arresting people for doing nothing but sitting outside their homes? Why are they making all their citizens nothing but prisoners? How is that keeping peace, How is it protecting my rights and exactly how is that the police doing their job? It's not.
    Last edited by Henrin; 08-17-14 at 07:55 PM.

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    Re: ‘I just kept asking: Why am I being arrested for sitting in my aunt’s driveway?’

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    What law was broken by this person sitting in his car which was in turn sitting in his aunt's driveway? You need to specifically cite the wording of the law and not make some vague reference of what you think the law says.

    No I don't.
    Folks (except for the stupid ones like in this article), know what curfew means. And if they really didn't know, would be part of a wider problem.

    They were charged with failure to disperse. So now they know for sure.

    The reality is that they most likely knew, but were trying to push the boundaries.
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    Re: ‘I just kept asking: Why am I being arrested for sitting in my aunt’s driveway?’

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post

    No I don't.
    Folks (except for the stupid ones like in this article), know what curfew means. And if they really didn't know, would be part of a wider problem.

    They were charged with failure to disperse. So now they know for sure.

    The reality is that they most likely knew, but were trying to push the boundaries.
    Disperse to where? OMG! They all went into the house, but they're still together! That's still a failure to disperse! They were observing the curfew. They were home. Show me where it says otherwise.
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    Re: ‘I just kept asking: Why am I being arrested for sitting in my aunt’s driveway?’

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    Disperse to where? OMG! They all went into the house, but they're still together! That's still a failure to disperse! They were observing the curfew. They were home. Show me where it says otherwise.
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    Re: ‘I just kept asking: Why am I being arrested for sitting in my aunt’s driveway?’

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    At some we need to stand against the government blaming the citizens for their own failings and this is a good time as any. It also just doesn't make any sense in the first place. The police are having serious problems in the area with their customers and here they are proving them right by stepping on them one little bit more by forcing them all to stay inside.
    we ARE the government. They were to blame, they broke curfew even if on their own property, common sense would dictate, stay inside. If I am a law abiding citizen and a curfew has been called, I am staying inside not pressing the issue. If someone would have been hurt here it wouldn't have mattered about rights. Which is my point. This is not the time to press the issue.

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