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    Re: ‘I just kept asking: Why am I being arrested for sitting in my aunt’s driveway?’

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    I found other definitions. San Diego has a youth curfew, and it specifically states "at home" not inside. It includes the sidewalk immediately adjacent to the residence.

    Did you find the specific curfew order for Ferguson? What it actually says?

    Without it we are engaged in pure speculation.

    I find it odd it isn't ANYWHERE on the internet that I can find.
    Yeah I spent the last 20 minutes searching the Missouri Statutes online and couldn't find a definition for curfew or what the governor's emergency powers are or the wording of the order.

    Not that it's likely to matter. Despite people's comments about private property the government legally treads all over property rights all the time. I wouldn't be surprised if the governor could legally mandate that people stay in their homes during a state of emergency.
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    Re: ‘I just kept asking: Why am I being arrested for sitting in my aunt’s driveway?’

    Quote Originally Posted by ~SAL View Post
    I gotta ask here, how high does one's IQ have to be in order to fully comprehend that there has been death and destruction and now a curfew is in place for the good of everyone?

    At a certain point I have to say, if you have no common sense, if the need to be defiant, or stupid over-rides basic common sense, I have no further sympathy.

    With all that has occurred in this community WHY do people have to stretch the limit out?

    They guy does not deserve to die for being stupid, but he didn't so I say, man up be glad you are still breathing and don't be a wiener.

    wow hey dude, there's a curfew, it not be pertaining to me though, I be right in a car, in my auntie's driveway smokin'...they be arrestin' me, not my fault bro

    yes it is, and if you need an explanation here as to why, your road is going to be a rocky one in the real world
    Yes, because arresting peaceful people who are on their private property certainly is a valid exercise of curfew laws.

    I have to wonder how high does one's IQ have to be in order to fully comprehend abuse of power and that government action is supposed to be limited. Wow, people who have run ins with the authority should just STFU and be happy they leave the situation alive....great. There's the America we all know and love
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    Re: ‘I just kept asking: Why am I being arrested for sitting in my aunt’s driveway?’

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Yes, because arresting peaceful people who are on their private property certainly is a valid exercise of curfew laws.

    I have to wonder how high does one's IQ have to be in order to fully comprehend abuse of power and that government action is supposed to be limited. Wow, people who have run ins with the authority should just STFU and be happy they leave the situation alive....great. There's the America we all know and love
    you entirely missed my point but that's okay, hope your rant helped along with the eye exercise

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    Re: ‘I just kept asking: Why am I being arrested for sitting in my aunt’s driveway?’

    Quote Originally Posted by ~SAL View Post
    you entirely missed my point but that's okay, hope your rant helped along with the eye exercise
    No, your point has been well made. Cower in fear of the authority and do as they tell you, be happy you're still breathing.
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    Re: ‘I just kept asking: Why am I being arrested for sitting in my aunt’s driveway?’

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No, your point has been well made. Cower in fear of the authority and do as they tell you, be happy you're still breathing.
    Yes we agree, I too think my point was well made repeatedly in this thread and others on this topic. In fact, no one but you had a comprehension problem.

    The fact that you can not comprehend said point however is not an issue for me. Neither is your assumptive leap regarding what I fear or my behavior due to it.

    Suit up well before ya tackle the National Guard okay....let us know how that works for you k...

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    Re: ‘I just kept asking: Why am I being arrested for sitting in my aunt’s driveway?’

    Quote Originally Posted by ~SAL View Post
    Yes we agree, I too think my point was well made repeatedly in this thread and others on this topic. In fact, no one but you had a comprehension problem.

    The fact that you can not comprehend said point however is not an issue for me. Neither is your assumptive leap regarding what I fear or my behavior due to it.

    Suit up well before ya tackle the National Guard okay....let us know how that works for you k...
    Bow down before the one you serve, huh. Interesting.
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    Re: ‘I just kept asking: Why am I being arrested for sitting in my aunt’s driveway?’

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    You are speculating about the part that they intended to violate the curfew at some future moment. They might have intended to stay the night at the house at which they had arrived. For all we know, they went there because it was in range, and they didn't have time to reach their desired destination. They MAY have been complying the best they could in their specific situation. You don't know anything about that. Bottom line: They probably weren't violating the specific legal order, but that remains to be seen when someone comes up with what the order actually was. I am open to that possibility. And they certainly weren't violating any 'common' definition, unless two of the dictionary definitions defines what people commonly understand.
    A "common definition" means GO HOME. They weren't home. It's a small point and hardly worth all this effort. They won't even be charged.
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    Re: ‘I just kept asking: Why am I being arrested for sitting in my aunt’s driveway?’

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    A "common definition" means GO HOME. They weren't home. It's a small point and hardly worth all this effort. They won't even be charged.
    No. There are two dictionary definitions out of four that means that. But, it wasn't my intuitive understanding, nor was it reasonable to think that is what the law would be, nor has it been shown at all that it is a common definition from a legal standpoint. Quite the opposite really. Did you read anything that has been said in the thread?
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    Re: ‘I just kept asking: Why am I being arrested for sitting in my aunt’s driveway?’

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    No. There are two dictionary definitions out of four that means that. But, it wasn't my intuitive understanding, nor was it reasonable to think that is what the law would be, nor has it been shown at all that it is a common definition from a legal standpoint. Quite the opposite really. Did you read anything that has been said in the thread?
    If you aren't supposed to be out from midnight to 6 AM, then home is where you belong...unless you work nights or are staying over at someone's house. Who the hell cares? I won't get stopped or arrested. You will. *shrug* Until you have the actual wording of the curfew, you're making stuff up. So am I. I'll err on the side of caution. You go sit in your car in your friend's driveway with three other people and get hauled down to the station. *shrug again*
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    Re: ‘I just kept asking: Why am I being arrested for sitting in my aunt’s driveway?’

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    If you aren't supposed to be out from midnight to 6 AM, then home is where you belong...unless you work nights or are staying over at someone's house. Who the hell cares? I won't get stopped or arrested. You will. *shrug* Until you have the actual wording of the curfew, you're making stuff up. So am I. I'll err on the side of caution. You go sit in your car in your friend's driveway with three other people and get hauled down to the station. *shrug again*
    Well, then, I don't think you get to say "common" definition. Cautious would be a better descriptor.
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