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HogWash said:
That's their mentality, alright.
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the whole mess serves a useful purpose. The next time some gun banning pillow head asks me why honest people ought to be able to own fully automatic assault rifles or the semi auto things that scare liberals almost as much I can point to the rioting in this town
 
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iacardsfan said:
The police created this problem, so it all falls on their shoulders.
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Are you sure about that?



FBI warns New Black Panther leader in Ferguson inciting violence.

The FBI is concerned members of the New Black Panther Party are in Ferguson, Missouri and advocating violence against police, according to an alert from the St. Louis Division of the FBI, reported KTVI.

Chawn Kweli, National Chief of Staff for the NBPP is in town, along with other members, to respond to the shooting of Michael Brown. Kweli posted on Facebook , “This is the hour all the greats promised. If you die, die like a warrior. I’ll see you on the ground.” He is posting updates from Ferguson under the tag: Live Battle Report.....snip~

FBI warns of ‘New Black Panther Party’ leader inciting violence in Ferguson | WTVR.com
 
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MMC said:
Are you sure about that?



FBI warns New Black Panther leader in Ferguson inciting violence.

The FBI is concerned members of the New Black Panther Party are in Ferguson, Missouri and advocating violence against police, according to an alert from the St. Louis Division of the FBI, reported KTVI.

Chawn Kweli, National Chief of Staff for the NBPP is in town, along with other members, to respond to the shooting of Michael Brown. Kweli posted on Facebook , “This is the hour all the greats promised. If you die, die like a warrior. I’ll see you on the ground.” He is posting updates from Ferguson under the tag: Live Battle Report.....snip~

FBI warns of ‘New Black Panther Party’ leader inciting violence in Ferguson | WTVR.com
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maybe CK ought to lead the jihad against the police. sounds like he is nothing more than a coward sitting back hoping to stir up a blood bath
 
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TurtleDude said:
maybe CK ought to lead the jihad against the police. sounds like he is nothing more than a coward sitting back hoping to stir up a blood bath
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Heya TD. :2wave: Yeah and the FBI if they are aware of inciting violence against the Police. Then they had a reason to take this guy in. So why didn't they?

I wonder why the New Black Panthers wont come to Chicago hitting their chest and calling themselves what they do.....could be they might not make it past that weekend, huh?
 
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Hamster Buddha said:
So I guess you prefer them facing rioters with just clothes and batons? That's going to go great for the police who are trying to protect store owners..
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I like how protesters are instantly rioters now. I bet the rowdy destructive looter people dont even make up 1% of the protesters. So get the cops in there to arrest the scum bags and get the **** out and let the protesters protest. No need to control ALL the protesters. If they use small instances for complete crowd control then they are just scapegoating. Is anyone firing guns at the cops or even really trying to hurt them what so ever? Its the cops that are firing rubber bullets at peaceful people. Just cuz a bullet is rubber doesnt mean it cant hit someone in the eye and kill them. The cops were firing chemical weapons (tear gas) at news crews totally separate and apart from the protesters.... literally....
 
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These cops NEED to use the militairy grade equipment. The government hands it out to cops with the stipulation "Equipment must be used within a year or returned". Therefore the cops need to use it to keep it. Whether the ammount of force is appropriate or not.
 
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dirtpoorchris said:
These cops NEED to use the militairy grade equipment. The government hands it out to cops with the stipulation "Equipment must be used within a year or returned". Therefore the cops need to use it to keep it. Whether the ammount of force is appropriate or not.
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Meh...you are just pissed the crowds were so easily dispersed and you dont have any good pictures of cops laying into civilians with batons for you to exploit. You want blood...because it makes good press.
 
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VanceMack said:
Meh...you are just pissed the crowds were so easily dispersed and you dont have any good pictures of cops laying into civilians with batons for you to exploit. You want blood...because it makes good press.
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...... That is stupid. Im a very peaceful guy.
 
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dirtpoorchris said:
...... That is stupid. Im a very peaceful guy.
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Nah...you want blood. You want victims and glossy 8x10s so you and the rest of your ilk can bleat on about how teh eeeeeeeevil police officers are oppressing those poor people. The fact is...all it took was a few minutes, some tear gas, and a few rubber bullets and everyone went home. The one night there WASNT looting and rioting was the night the police shut everyone down.
 
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When viewing MainScream media, it seems to me that the media is sort of explaining what happened as a "New Event" and without any reference to history long past.

The pundits act as though they had no idea as to the amount of anger seething within the population, much less the complete lack of respect towards anybody in authority. It is as though they have ignored the comment section of their very own media outlet for the past 15 years or more.

We are being told that the NSA is reading everything Mankind posts in MouseLand and scan every e-mail, and with the ability to monitor every single phone call in the world ..... and yet there is total surprise expressed by the media pundits when recognizing the discontent within society as this particular "Event" unfolded.

Then of course, there are lengthy discussions as to how the cure must be crafted in order to get the "Event" behind us and so that America can "Move On".

A viewer tends to walk away with a sense of confidence that the "Event" will be investigated and a cure will be implemented. Obviously, once the reasons behind the problem have been detailed by countless media interviews, there is but little choice but to enact a cure once we recognized an "Event" which sort of just snuck up upon us. It is just that the Ruling Class were unaware of these underlying problems encountered within society, but surely after endless hours of televised punditry, it is plainly described and no doubt the underlying problem will be dealt with promptly and properly while on the route to "Problem Solved".

I laughed aloud as the media described a "New Method Of Community Policing" which seemed to have never been thought of during 250 years of history.

The New Method was having a uniformed police officer actually walk hand in hand with the protesters at the very head of the protest parade and in "Solidarity" with the community.

Obviously; when realizing that this New Method of policing was quite successful, one would expect to soon see where these military weapons and tanks were melted down for their metal value and the proceeds used to build a playground in the community.

However; history shows that the Ruling Class have very good memories, it is just that they are short.

Thus the reason why the sores within society continue to fester.

Calm
 
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VanceMack said:
Horse****. You want the same antiriot tactics (which were employed 30-40 years ago)...just not in the same gear and equipment. 30-40 years ago, the police would have rather liberally used batons and made arrests. What you fail to recognize (because you are so hell bent on buying into the foolishness and rhetoric) is that the tactical anti-riot measures were effective with minimal contact.

Face facts...you bought into some moronic politicians rhetoric hook line and sinker. You didnt actually bother to 'think'.
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Frankly we're acting no better than a third world pisshole. I don't have an issue with dispersing rioters - those few that there actually were. I have a big issue with American cities looking like frigging Baghdad during the war.
 
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Gaius46 said:
Frankly we're acting no better than a third world pisshole. I don't have an issue with dispersing rioters - those few that there actually were. I have a big issue with American cities looking like frigging Baghdad during the war.
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Perhaps you should address your concerns to the people that cause the need for those militarized police forces to be there in the first place.
 
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VanceMack said:
Nah...you want blood. You want victims and glossy 8x10s so you and the rest of your ilk can bleat on about how teh eeeeeeeevil police officers are oppressing those poor people. The fact is...all it took was a few minutes, some tear gas, and a few rubber bullets and everyone went home. The one night there WASNT looting and rioting was the night the police shut everyone down.
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Yep, they need victims to exploit.

People dont realize that it took the California National Guard to shut down the 1992 LA Riots.
 
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VanceMack said:
Perhaps you should address your concerns to the people that cause the need for those militarized police forces to be there in the first place.
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Ferguson, MO. - the Moron Spring.
 
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Why are the Police bending to these idiotic criticisms of " militarism " ?

Riots and looting every night because the Police are worried about how their actions may look on the News.

Its ridiculous.

They can't do their job, protect shops or innocent Americans from thug looters because some moron says the look like soldiers ?
 
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VanceMack said:
Perhaps you should address your concerns to the people that cause the need for those militarized police forces to be there in the first place.
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And those would be who? The few rioters or the hundreds of peaceful protesters?
 
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Gaius46 said:
Frankly we're acting no better than a third world pisshole. I don't have an issue with dispersing rioters - those few that there actually were. I have a big issue with American cities looking like frigging Baghdad during the war.
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How? What would be the acceptable way to do that to you?
 
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Gaius46 said:
And those would be who? The few rioters or the hundreds of peaceful protesters?
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Why aren't the "hundreds" policing their own "few" that are doing the damage? When you don't act you become an accessory to the crime.
 
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Gaius46 said:
And those would be who? The few rioters or the hundreds of peaceful protesters?
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Both. The "peaceful protesters" aren't following the law...they are blocking public streets. Their agitators are whipping people into an angry frenzy. And rather than condemn the looters they excuse and justify. So blame them both. Blame the ones that have burned buildings and robbed Shenaynay's Weave Shop to show their outrage over cops and brutality.
 
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j-mac said:
Why aren't the "hundreds" policing their own "few" that are doing the damage? When you don't act you become an accessory to the crime.
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Good question.
 
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j-mac said:
Why aren't the "hundreds" policing their own "few" that are doing the damage? When you don't act you become an accessory to the crime.
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So you want peaceful protesters to confront violent pillagers? Not everyone is as brave as you.
 
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dirtpoorchris said:
So you want peaceful protesters to confront violent pillagers? Not everyone is as brave as you.
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That is a cowards response. It is unfortunately all too common.
 
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Everyone is screaming about the need to enforce the law in order to gain control of the situation.

I think that the underlying complaint for this discontent and civil unrest is that the "Enforcement Of The Law" is/or has been shown to be very selective within this particular community and right across the broad spectrum of American society.

I am all for Enforcing The Law against those stealing a few chocolate bars and the looters, but not until Enforcement Of The Law has been carried out on Wall Street with the same determination and style as presently being applied to the Common Folks in this specific town.

It seems to me that Enforcement Of The Law all depends upon how great a defense an arrested person is capable of putting up. If you can afford to hire the skills required to defend yourself, and actually threaten to bankrupt the Crown Attorney's yearly budget, then you get a pass.

Everybody who can afford a defense holds the Crown Attorney hostage as his office budget crumbles and the Crown Attorney begins to look incompetent because being over budget.

But, if the cost of Enforcing The Law in Poor Town America is very cheap because everybody just pleads guilty, everybody looks good except the person charged.

Justice is never done. It must only appear to be done.

Calm
 
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dirtpoorchris said:
So you want peaceful protesters to confront violent pillagers? Not everyone is as brave as you.
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and can LE be properly equipped to ensure the LE officers safety when they confront the "violent pillagers" ?

The peaceful protesters want "justice" for the teenager. I don't here much from them for "justice" for the owners who place of business has been looted.
 
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