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    Re: 'There are no police': Ferguson store owners guard businesses; cite lack of polic

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    First specific to St Louis without the heavy handed police presence there probably wouldn't have been a riot. But that's beside the point.

    My issue isn't with police quelling riots. That's part of the job. My issue with police acting like soldiers and treating citizens like the enemy.
    The "citizens" are putting others person, and property in danger. That is exactly the proper response to people like this.
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    Re: 'There are no police': Ferguson store owners guard businesses; cite lack of polic

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    Not just attire. Tactics and mindset. If you act like an occupier you shouldn't be surprised when residents get upset.
    Horse****. You want the same antiriot tactics (which were employed 30-40 years ago)...just not in the same gear and equipment. 30-40 years ago, the police would have rather liberally used batons and made arrests. What you fail to recognize (because you are so hell bent on buying into the foolishness and rhetoric) is that the tactical anti-riot measures were effective with minimal contact.

    Face facts...you bought into some moronic politicians rhetoric hook line and sinker. You didnt actually bother to 'think'.

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    Re: 'There are no police': Ferguson store owners guard businesses; cite lack of polic

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    First specific to St Louis without the heavy handed police presence there probably wouldn't have been a riot. But that's beside the point.

    My issue isn't with police quelling riots. That's part of the job. My issue with police acting like soldiers and treating citizens like the enemy.
    There's no excuse for rioting.
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    Re: 'There are no police': Ferguson store owners guard businesses; cite lack of polic

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    There's no excuse for rioting.
    Who said there was?
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    Re: 'There are no police': Ferguson store owners guard businesses; cite lack of polic

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    That would make sense. A lot more sense than handing him that kind of responsibility because he's black.
    If only that were true.

    Personally, I think this explosion is likely the result of a long-simmering problem:

    The Day Ferguson Cops Were Caught in a Bloody Lie - The Daily Beast

    I think that if this other incident, coupled with this most recent explosion, are indicative of a pattern of behavior, the protests and riots aren't happening because people are stupid. They're happening because people are fed-up.
    Everyone is fed-up. It's not just that community and those people.

    The millions who lost their houses and lifelyhoods despite working hard all their lives are fed-up.
    The college kids who start their lives with debt that they'll need to get a good job and 10 years to pay off. Basically a mortgage but without a house.
    The low-pay workers who are being treated like dirt.
    The people who want the govt to smth.
    The people who want the govt to do nothing.
    The people who want the border protected.
    The people who cross the border illegally because they're fed up with what's in their home.

    And the list can go on and on. everyone is fed-up. But that gives you grounds to protest, not riot.

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    Re: 'There are no police': Ferguson store owners guard businesses; cite lack of polic

    Quote Originally Posted by HogWash View Post
    That's their mentality, alright.
    the whole mess serves a useful purpose. The next time some gun banning pillow head asks me why honest people ought to be able to own fully automatic assault rifles or the semi auto things that scare liberals almost as much I can point to the rioting in this town



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    Re: 'There are no police': Ferguson store owners guard businesses; cite lack of polic

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    The police created this problem, so it all falls on their shoulders.

    Are you sure about that?



    FBI warns New Black Panther leader in Ferguson inciting violence.

    The FBI is concerned members of the New Black Panther Party are in Ferguson, Missouri and advocating violence against police, according to an alert from the St. Louis Division of the FBI, reported KTVI.

    Chawn Kweli, National Chief of Staff for the NBPP is in town, along with other members, to respond to the shooting of Michael Brown. Kweli posted on Facebook , “This is the hour all the greats promised. If you die, die like a warrior. I’ll see you on the ground.” He is posting updates from Ferguson under the tag: Live Battle Report.....snip~

    FBI warns of ‘New Black Panther Party’ leader inciting violence in Ferguson | WTVR.com

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    Re: 'There are no police': Ferguson store owners guard businesses; cite lack of polic

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Are you sure about that?



    FBI warns New Black Panther leader in Ferguson inciting violence.

    The FBI is concerned members of the New Black Panther Party are in Ferguson, Missouri and advocating violence against police, according to an alert from the St. Louis Division of the FBI, reported KTVI.

    Chawn Kweli, National Chief of Staff for the NBPP is in town, along with other members, to respond to the shooting of Michael Brown. Kweli posted on Facebook , “This is the hour all the greats promised. If you die, die like a warrior. I’ll see you on the ground.” He is posting updates from Ferguson under the tag: Live Battle Report.....snip~

    FBI warns of ‘New Black Panther Party’ leader inciting violence in Ferguson | WTVR.com
    maybe CK ought to lead the jihad against the police. sounds like he is nothing more than a coward sitting back hoping to stir up a blood bath



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    Re: 'There are no police': Ferguson store owners guard businesses; cite lack of polic

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    maybe CK ought to lead the jihad against the police. sounds like he is nothing more than a coward sitting back hoping to stir up a blood bath

    Heya TD. Yeah and the FBI if they are aware of inciting violence against the Police. Then they had a reason to take this guy in. So why didn't they?

    I wonder why the New Black Panthers wont come to Chicago hitting their chest and calling themselves what they do.....could be they might not make it past that weekend, huh?

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    Re: 'There are no police': Ferguson store owners guard businesses; cite lack of polic

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    So I guess you prefer them facing rioters with just clothes and batons? That's going to go great for the police who are trying to protect store owners..
    I like how protesters are instantly rioters now. I bet the rowdy destructive looter people dont even make up 1% of the protesters. So get the cops in there to arrest the scum bags and get the **** out and let the protesters protest. No need to control ALL the protesters. If they use small instances for complete crowd control then they are just scapegoating. Is anyone firing guns at the cops or even really trying to hurt them what so ever? Its the cops that are firing rubber bullets at peaceful people. Just cuz a bullet is rubber doesnt mean it cant hit someone in the eye and kill them. The cops were firing chemical weapons (tear gas) at news crews totally separate and apart from the protesters.... literally....
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