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    Re: 'There are no police': Ferguson store owners guard businesses; cite lack of polic

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I think that's a rhetorical question
    I think I asked it because I wanted an answer, but thanks for playing.
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    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: 'There are no police': Ferguson store owners guard businesses; cite lack of polic

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Do you also support them getting the appropriate business and property tax rebate from the city/state since they are now required to police themselves?
    If they were policing themselves then yes.

    But we all know that these store owners are actually complaining about slow response times, not a non-existent police force.
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    Re: 'There are no police': Ferguson store owners guard businesses; cite lack of polic

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    If they were policing themselves then yes.

    But we all know that these store owners are actually complaining about slow response times, not a non-existent police force.
    Aren't those effectively the same thing?
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    Re: 'There are no police': Ferguson store owners guard businesses; cite lack of polic

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    Aren't those effectively the same thing?
    In a city dealing with riots and protests, slow response times are to be expected. It sucks that the stores got looted, but these store owners do have access to a police force.
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    Re: 'There are no police': Ferguson store owners guard businesses; cite lack of polic

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Even were we to assume that that's how the governor made the decision, the man's skin color still has absolutely nothing to do with his competence.
    Agreed

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    Alderman, 2 reporters arrested as Ferguson erupts for 4th night

    There's a lot more where that came from, Google is your friend. The short is that the reporters were off the street and minding their own business when the cops rolled up, and the alderman -- an elected official -- was capturing pictures and footage of the protests.
    Yeah I know, but why do that when I can get someone else to do the leg work

    Honestly in that video, the Alderman thing wasn't the most shocking thing. I found the tear gas being deployed against the Al Jazeera news crew to be more appalling.

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post

    Of course I would be as concerned. The problem isn't whether or not I'm afraid that the man with the gun understands my rights and his responsibilities, it's the fact that he's responding to understandable anger and frustration with military equipment. That kind of response shows a failure to understand what the appropriate response to the situation is, regardless of whether or not my rights are understood.

    Obviously not. That kind of response shows a failure to understand what the appropriate response to the situation is.
    Let's be honest, these people aren't upset over military equipment, there upset because a black kid was shot. Let's not turn this into something it isn't. And don't give me that understandable bull****. There thugs, nothing more nothing else. And when you start making excuses for these thugs, you spit all over the people who are doing it right, marching and protesting peacefully.

    Prey tell, what is a proper response to a mob that is rioting and looting then?

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    Re: 'There are no police': Ferguson store owners guard businesses; cite lack of polic

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    The Rodney King riots this ain't. And frankly calling out the National Guard is probably preferable.
    Well, wait a minute...it doesn't make sense to complain about militarization of the police and then say that calling out the actual military is a better option.
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    Re: 'There are no police': Ferguson store owners guard businesses; cite lack of polic

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    There's a world of difference between a helmet and shield and an M16 and an APC.

    Again police enforce the law and ostensibly protect the populace. They aren't a military force.
    Cops don't have M-16's and the "APC" you're talking about is nothing more than an unarmed, armored truck, which purely a defensive piece of equipment.

    Let's get real, the cops are firing rubber bullets!
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    Re: 'There are no police': Ferguson store owners guard businesses; cite lack of polic

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Even were we to assume that that's how the governor made the decision, the man's skin color still has absolutely nothing to do with his competence.
    It has nothing to do with his competence, but it has everything to do with his appointment.
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    Re: 'There are no police': Ferguson store owners guard businesses; cite lack of polic

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Well, wait a minute...it doesn't make sense to complain about militarization of the police and then say that calling out the actual military is a better option.
    Yes it does. Calling out National a Guard takes time, money and effort so it won't happen just on a whim as seems to be the case with local PDs.
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    Re: 'There are no police': Ferguson store owners guard businesses; cite lack of polic

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    Yes it does. Calling out National a Guard takes time, money and effort so it won't happen just on a whim as seems to be the case with local PDs.
    The longer the response time, the more damage to life and property the mob will inflict.

    So, what about the rights of the law abiding citizens? Have you totally forgotten about that??
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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