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    Re: 'There are no police': Ferguson store owners guard businesses; cite lack of polic

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    That highway police chief was put in charge because he was born and raised in the african-american community in fergusson. He wasn't put in charge because he was black, but because he was "local", which most of the cops and the mayor aren't "local" as in, they aren't blacks from the african-american community in fergusson which is also the vast majority of the population.
    That would make sense. A lot more sense than handing him that kind of responsibility because he's black.

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    I cannot speak for the OP but I am guessing this is what he was trying to say, but you know... in a simplistic and stupid way.
    If only that were true.

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    TMy opinion is that everyone is stupid in fergusson. Lets see the autopsy result, the forensic result and then the end of the investigation before people start protesting and rioting and before the mayor deploys the police, that looks like a god damn army, on the streets.
    Personally, I think this explosion is likely the result of a long-simmering problem:

    The Day Ferguson Cops Were Caught in a Bloody Lie - The Daily Beast

    I think that if this other incident, coupled with this most recent explosion, are indicative of a pattern of behavior, the protests and riots aren't happening because people are stupid. They're happening because people are fed-up.
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    Re: 'There are no police': Ferguson store owners guard businesses; cite lack of polic

    Quote Originally Posted by HogWash View Post
    I mentioned it because this entire blot on history is about SKIN COLOR. And that is the ONLY REASON the governor named that guy as the in-charge cop on the scene. And he IS BLACK.
    Either the man is competent or he is not. His skin color has nothing to do with his competence and as such is nothing more than a red herring.
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    Re: 'There are no police': Ferguson store owners guard businesses; cite lack of polic

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    For one thing lose the military weapons, storm trooper body armor, MRAPS etc. They are police, not soldiers in a war zone.
    So I guess you prefer them facing rioters with just clothes and batons? That's going to go great for the police who are trying to protect store owners..

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    Re: 'There are no police': Ferguson store owners guard businesses; cite lack of polic

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    So I guess you prefer them facing rioters with just clothes and batons? That's going to go great for the police who are trying to protect store owners..
    I think it's pretty obvious there's a middle ground between paramilitary equipment and going in bare-knuckled.

    There are not enough police in the whole of the United States to stop the rest of the population from doing whatever it wants. The authority and capabilities of any police officer are limited by common agreement among the rest of us, functionally a shared hallucination. A smart officer knows that keeping the peace is less about being armed for anything and more about their relationship with the community they are charged with protecting.

    You do not address a community angry at a perceived abuse of authority or force by suiting up for war unless your intent is to start a war.
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    Re: 'There are no police': Ferguson store owners guard businesses; cite lack of polic

    Quote Originally Posted by HogWash View Post
    'There are no police': Ferguson store owners guard businesses; cite lack of police response | Fox News

    response.

    Well, it look like the new black highway patrol officer who was put in charge of the situation by the governor has everything UNDER CONTROL....NOT.

    GD incredible!
    Considering this highway patrol officer was marching with the protestors, when would the new police in charge have time to actually police the jurisdiction?
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    Re: 'There are no police': Ferguson store owners guard businesses; cite lack of polic

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    I wonder how much of that is tit-for-tat BS. "You don't want to support us and see what happens to you" kind of crap.
    It would be awesome if the police were using this as a way to establish a racket right in plain sight. No joke that would be hilariously awesome.

    But these store owners should take personal responsibility for their businesses.
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    Re: 'There are no police': Ferguson store owners guard businesses; cite lack of polic

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I think it's pretty obvious there's a middle ground between paramilitary equipment and going in bare-knuckled.

    There are not enough police in the whole of the United States to stop the rest of the population from doing whatever it wants. The authority and capabilities of any police officer are limited by common agreement among the rest of us, functionally a shared hallucination. A smart officer knows that keeping the peace is less about being armed for anything and more about their relationship with the community they are charged with protecting.

    You do not address a community angry at a perceived abuse of authority or force by suiting up for war unless your intent is to start a war.
    If these police were going after normal protesters, then you'd have grounds for an argument of abuse of power, but so far I've seen several peaceful protests over the past couple of days and not once has there been an outbreak of violence on the part of the police. When a situation is out of control and you have rioting, force is required to bring things under control. And in that situation, do we not want the responders to be as well equipped as possible?

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    Re: 'There are no police': Ferguson store owners guard businesses; cite lack of polic

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    So I guess you prefer them facing rioters with just clothes and batons? That's going to go great for the police who are trying to protect store owners..
    How did cops deal with rioters pre War on Drugs?

    And more to the point the St Louis PD for the past week has been armed and acting like the 1st Infantry Division landing in Iraq during Persian Gulf 1.
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    Re: 'There are no police': Ferguson store owners guard businesses; cite lack of polic

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I think it's pretty obvious there's a middle ground between paramilitary equipment and going in bare-knuckled.


    You do not address a community angry at a perceived abuse of authority or force by suiting up for war unless your intent is to start a war.
    and that community anger is addressed by damaging and hurting their own neighbors.

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    Re: 'There are no police': Ferguson store owners guard businesses; cite lack of polic

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    For one thing lose the military weapons, storm trooper body armor, MRAPS etc. They are police, not soldiers in a war zone.
    YOU go put yourself in a riot situation where it is reported civilians are firing at police helicopters adn DONT wear anything and everything available.

    The funny thing is...the night before when the police DID respond with all that gear? No riots, the crowd dispersed in literally minutes once the police engaged, no looting...no nothing. Some runny noses and rubber bullet bruises. The riot gear was extraordinarily 'effective'.

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