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    Re: 'There are no police': Ferguson store owners guard businesses; cite lack of polic

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Then report on the facts regarding the tear gas and armored vehicles. Escalating violence will not see protestors win anything other than jail time and possibly their lives. The only way to protest and WIN is with non-violence. Has Ghandi and MLK's teachings been ignored?
    They can't...they were getting gassed.....
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    Re: 'There are no police': Ferguson store owners guard businesses; cite lack of polic

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    The police created this problem, so it all falls on their shoulders.
    How do you know that?

    How do you know Brown did not start it?

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    Re: 'There are no police': Ferguson store owners guard businesses; cite lack of polic

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    Well what can they do? If they go in with riot gear the media attacks them for being too heavy handed.
    You mean when our police act too heavy handed and too much like the military, we shouldn't criticize them for it?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: 'There are no police': Ferguson store owners guard businesses; cite lack of polic

    Quote Originally Posted by Soupnazi630 View Post
    How do you know that?

    How do you know Brown did not start it?
    Of the two autopsies, there showed no struggle. Mr. Brown was unarmed. There was clearly excessive use of force...6 shots, two to the head, nobody is a threat after eating 5 bullets, one of which to the head. This was an act of police brutality. Even if Mr. Brown was a threat to the life of the police officer, which he was not, a shot to the leg would have sufficed as self defense, not 6 including multiple to the head.
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    Re: 'There are no police': Ferguson store owners guard businesses; cite lack of polic

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    Of the two autopsies, there showed no struggle. Mr. Brown was unarmed. There was clearly excessive use of force...6 shots, two to the head, nobody is a threat after eating 5 bullets, one of which to the head. This was an act of police brutality. Even if Mr. Brown was a threat to the life of the police officer, which he was not, a shot to the leg would have sufficed as self defense, not 6 including multiple to the head.

    That is STILL an opinion and Cops are not trained nor ever instructed to "shoot someone in the leg ".

    How ridiculous. You've seen too many movies.

    They're trained to aim towards Center mass.

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    Re: 'There are no police': Ferguson store owners guard businesses; cite lack of polic

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    That is STILL an opinion and Cops are not trained nor ever instructed to "shoot someone in the leg ".

    How ridiculous. You've seen too many movies.

    They're trained to aim towards Center mass.
    Of course, shooting each big toe would stop a running felon easily.
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    Re: 'There are no police': Ferguson store owners guard businesses; cite lack of polic

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    That is STILL an opinion and Cops are not trained nor ever instructed to "shoot someone in the leg ".

    How ridiculous. You've seen too many movies.

    They're trained to aim towards Center mass.
    So in you're professional opinion, the appropriate force was to shoot and hit the man 6 times, including multiple in the face. According to eye witness reports he had turned around to face the pursuing officer with his hands up, at that time do you still support firing 5 times into him (the 6th grazed him as he was fleeing originally according to reports. That is when he stopped and turned to surrender himself.) And I also find it hard to believe that police are trained to aim toward the center of mass when they have no reason to believe the suspect is armed.
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    Re: 'There are no police': Ferguson store owners guard businesses; cite lack of polic

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Of course it matters. But its a different monster of a lower calibur because one has state and government backing, a source of trust. And the other is expected to be criminal. Well because they are criminals. So you are saying that criminals murdering people is the same as guardians murdering people and getting away with it.... Get the **** outa here.

    What is more vile? An assassin killing someones baby or finding out the pope is sinister and has been sacrificing live babies all his career? We expect the assassin to have no morals. We let the "pope" type get closer to us and it is more vile if he does evil.
    What you've failed to consider is that if the cop doing the shooting were black, in all likelihood, there would be no protests, no lootings, no riots. It IS racism, but on the behalf of the protesters and the mob.

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    Re: 'There are no police': Ferguson store owners guard businesses; cite lack of polic

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No, the reason for the riots is because of a bunch of lawless assholes went buck wild in the streets.
    Describe "buck wild "for me.
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    Re: 'There are no police': Ferguson store owners guard businesses; cite lack of polic

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    Of the two autopsies, there showed no struggle. Mr. Brown was unarmed. There was clearly excessive use of force...6 shots, two to the head, nobody is a threat after eating 5 bullets, one of which to the head. This was an act of police brutality. Even if Mr. Brown was a threat to the life of the police officer, which he was not, a shot to the leg would have sufficed as self defense, not 6 including multiple to the head.
    There is so much we do know that you ignore with this flawed conclusion. And some we don't know that you assume is fact.

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