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Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat [W:613/629]

Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

That is true but you don't see many from Austin moving to the Socialist Republic of California, wonder why?

The Left turned that into a hellish place to do business and live. Austin is right on it's tracks... one of the most expensive over-taxed cities in the country.

It's fixing to move to a single member districts which might cull a lot of the Progressive influence that controls it now. So there's some hope.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

So you admit that a Governor can be committing a crime by vetoing a bill.

Now you know why Perry has been indicted.

In the scenario you presented the veto isn't the crime. Receiving the bribe is.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

So you admit that a Governor can be committing a crime by vetoing a bill.

Now you know why Perry has been indicted.

Again, I'm not aware of any bribe.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

So you admit that a Governor can be committing a crime by vetoing a bill.

Now you know why Perry has been indicted.

Bit of a stretch. There is no bribe involved here for one thing. Second, even if there were he would not be guilty of taking a bribe until he took a bribe. The act of vetoing a bill which results in personal gain or protection from investigation would counter conflict of interest rules more likely. Not sure that is indictable though.

BTW; I am no fan of Perry
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

I live in Williamson county and here's one of the reasons why. Robber baron Leftist elitist like this.



I live in Wilco as well.... and i'm amazed that she had her job saved. ( even more amazing is the she doesn't have the integrity to quit)

well, not really amazed... Travis county folks go to absurd lengths to protect Democrats.... the rest of the state goes to absurd lengths to protect Republicans.

if Perry has his trial in Travis county,he might be facing the fight of his life.... if it's moved out of Travis county, he's got a decent shot at getting past this ordeal.

in any event, the real "winner" in all this is the drunk bitch who decided to chug a bottle of vodka while driving down the road, endangering lives... after she got done with her cocktails at the bar.
she gets to keep her job ( trying and convicting drunk drivers, no less) and she gets to watch the political revenge of her antagonist take shape.

as for Perry, I don't care what happens to him... if he broke the law, he outta pay.. if he didn't, he shouldn't.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prosecutors' funds



All I can say is HOLY CRAP. This is going to be a political crapstorm.

Article is here.

Hard to imagine how a governor violates the law when he exercises his constitutional authority as he promised he would.:peace
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

Results matter compared to feelings. The results of TX are exceptional and don't support your claims. You seem to like the progressive ideology so much why stay in TX, move to California. Have you paid any attention to what the Progressives have done to that state?

I may get frowny faces for saying this, and I have a lot of family in California, but I don't like Californians. They are overly self-involved, and most of the Californians who move to Austin that I've met are Republicans, despite what is commonly believed. And the so-called Californian Democrats are mostly not progressive, at least how I understand their politics. Most of them are neoliberals or whack-job environmentalists. I care for neither type (and I consider myself an environmentalist). But, honestly, I don't know many Californians here in Austin, even though I realize that they are out there, and that Austin is known for trying to connect with Californians in general. It's not something I truly understand.

As for your comment on results, I think I'll let the results speak for themselves. I mentioned the Republican failures, and yet you ignored that and instead hold this economic success in Texas up on a on a flagpole as some sort of win for the Republican Party. Tell me, what were the policies that Republicans passed in order to make Texas an economic success? What is it that makes Perry such a great guy in your book?
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

He went from this:
Can a Governor veto a bill so he can receive a bribe?

It's a yes or no question


To this:
So you admit that a Governor can be committing a crime by vetoing a bill.

Now you know why Perry has been indicted.

Kind of like saying, "That is a pink cow. Do you see the pink cow?"

"uhhh, there is no cow"

"See, you admit that there is a pink cow, I WIN!!!"

Sangha, back away from the bong. You are going to break your leg jumping to conclusions like that.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

The Left turned that into a hellish place to do business and live. Austin is right on it's tracks... one of the most expensive over-taxed cities in the country.

It's fixing to move to a single member districts which might cull a lot of the Progressive influence that controls it now. So there's some hope.

I watched the Californians do to Las Vegas what they are doing to Austin... it's not gonna end pretty.
I'm looking forward to the inevitable housing bubble , though..... the back end of it will be nice to get a piece of .
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

Again, I'm not aware of any bribe.

Bit of a stretch. There is no bribe involved here for one thing. Second, even if there were he would not be guilty of taking a bribe until he took a bribe. The act of vetoing a bill which results in personal gain or protection from investigation would counter conflict of interest rules more likely. Not sure that is indictable though.

BTW; I am no fan of Perry

Never said Perry took a bribe

I clearly posted the crimes Perry is accused of committing and posted a link to the legal code which defined the crimes. It shows that vetoing a bill for for protection from investigation is not only a crime; it is a felony for which he can receive a sentence of up to 99 years in jail
 
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I am confused about what the prosecutor's personal problems have to do with any case involving Perry.

If the case is inept then it will be thrown out due to point of law, not because the prosecutor is an alcoholic.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

Never said Perry took a bribe

I clearly posted the crimes Perry is accused of committing and posted a link to the legal code which defined the crimes. It shows that vetoing a bill for for protection from investigation is not only a crime; it is a felony for which he can receive a sentence of up to 99 years in jail

Were you not the first to bring up the subject of a bribe? If not, fine, if so and its not relevant then why do it?
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

There are many ways to rid oneself of vermin. If one way doesn't work there is another way available. Regardless, I am glad that Delay is no longer in politics.

I guess you mean the end justifies the means.
 
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Same old lies, same old bs from you. You have no idea what you are talking about and buy the leftwing spin. California leads the nation in minimum wage jobs, leads the nation in poverty, and leads the nation in the number of people getting taxpayer assistance. You must be so proud.

TX has no state income taxes, has a low cost of living, is at the top in job creation, has 52 Fortune 500 companies and that simply drives you crazy. All those people and businesses moving to TX so they can make low wages, have no insurance, and living in poverty. That is liberal logic

Saying the same lies over and over again don't make those lies true. TX does not lead the nation in the number of people making minimum wage, they have the most in the nation, 500,000 out of a 13 million labor force making the FEDERAL MINIMUM Wage, California has the most people making a minimum wage, three times the number in TX. Suggest you learn how to do research. California minimum wage up to July 1 was $8 an hour. How was it living in California living on $8 an hour?


LOL Con.....no matter how many times you attempt to spin your lies....the reality smacks you right in the face. Texas and Mississippi lead the nation in the highest numbers of people working for minimum wage....a sad fact that you continue to dance and shuffle around. Does it make you proud to be in the same class as Mississippi?

Sorry con....but the facts are out there and you can continue to deny them....but it doesn't change the facts. Sorry bub.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

Wrong.

Because he's Rick Perry. Never liked the guy.

In any case, the court will decide this case not you or I.

I'll be mighty happy if they put him under the jail.


That's at least the second time you've hinted that people you don't care for should be in jail...Is that how you go through life? People you don't like should not be free? What a miserable way to approach disagreement.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

Same old lies, same old bs from you. You have no idea what you are talking about and buy the leftwing spin. 1. California leads the nation in minimum wage jobs, 2. leads the nation in poverty, and 3. leads the nation in the number of people getting taxpayer assistance. You must be so proud.

TX has no state income taxes, has a low cost of living, is at the top in job creation, has 4. 52 Fortune 500 companies and that simply drives you crazy. All those people and businesses moving to TX so they can make low wages, have no insurance, and living in poverty. That is liberal logic

Saying the same lies over and over again don't make those lies true. 5. TX does not lead the nation in the number of people making minimum wage, they have the most in the nation, 500,000 out of a 13 million labor force making the FEDERAL MINIMUM Wage, California has the most people making a minimum wage, three times the number in TX. Suggest you learn how to do research. California minimum wage up to July 1 was $8 an hour. How was it living in California living on $8 an hour?

1. California also leads the nation in people.

2. ORLY

List of U.S. states by poverty rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

California is 35th among states in poverty rate. Texas is 46th. Using raw numbers rather than the rate here is particularly dishonest.

3. California also leads the nation in people.

4. Yep, Texas has 52 Fortune 500 companies. California has 54. New York has 52, same as Texas.

Chart: States With The Most Fortune 500 Companies | CEO.com

5. According to these BLS statistics from this year, Texas has ~223K making minimum wage, or about half the number you state are in California, despite having about 70% of the population. So it's not nearly the disparity you're making it out to be.

Minimum Wage Workers in Texas - 2012

You guys can have your Texas vs. California pissing match all you want, but using raw numbers rather than rates to describe how conditions are so great in Texas and so awful in California regarding poverty is ludicrously dishonest.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

From the attorney blog Political Insurrection:

Remember that we’re dealing with the same District Attorney’s office that sought a spurious indictment against former House Majority Leader Tom Delay. The Travis County DA’s office’s jurisprudential legacy is firmly cemented in a foundation of liberal nonsense, and their latest figurehead pled guilty to and was convicted of being the drunkest DA to ever get behind the wheel.

This is political payback at either its worst or its finest, depending on how long you’ve been in the business. After Lehmberg was convicted, Governor Perry demanded her resignation from office, and threatened to veto funding for the DA-run Public Integrity Unit if she refused; she called his bluff, and remains in office to this day. Perry vetoed the funding and thus sealed the fate on the reputations of both Lehmberg and the PIU. Lehmberg’s only possible redemption lies in Perry’s eventual conviction, but, as is normally the case with very public witch hunts, the facts—and the narrative—remain overwhelmingly in Perry’s favor.

...Travis County itself is notoriously liberal, but you have to wonder just how bad it must be for Battleground Texas and their democrat friends statewide, if they’re forced to bank all expectations on a political play that’s almost certain to fail. Rick Perry Indictment | Rosemary Lehmberg | Indictment
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

Whatever happened to right and wrong? I don't care what their party is, if they break the law or abuse their position they need to go to jail. I watched the videos of Lehmberg and she was way wrong. There is no way she should be a District Attorney. She said she is sorry and I agree with her. She sure is sorry. She is a sorry excuse for a public servant.

I don't know Perry but there isn't a video out with him stumbling around acting like a bafoon for me to watch. I am not real impressed with what I have seen of him.

My prediction:
Perry will not be found guilty of anything.
It will not hurt him politically because of the video of Lehmberg's arrest. A lot of people will look at the video and think he did the right thing, trying to remove her from office.
Lehmberg will not run again for office. If she does then she will not be reelected.

This whole thing may very well backfire on her. It draws people to watch the video of her arrest. People associate behavior with videos more than they do with something in print or text.

WHish ever way this goes it will be interesting to watch.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

1. California also leads the nation in people.

2. ORLY

List of U.S. states by poverty rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

California is 35th among states in poverty rate. Texas is 46th. Using raw numbers rather than the rate here is particularly dishonest.

3. California also leads the nation in people.

4. Yep, Texas has 52 Fortune 500 companies. California has 54. New York has 52, same as Texas.

Chart: States With The Most Fortune 500 Companies | CEO.com

5. According to these BLS statistics from this year, Texas has ~223K making minimum wage, or about half the number you state are in California, despite having about 70% of the population. So it's not nearly the disparity you're making it out to be.

Minimum Wage Workers in Texas - 2012

You guys can have your Texas vs. California pissing match all you want, but using raw numbers rather than rates to describe how conditions are so great in Texas and so awful in California regarding poverty is ludicrously dishonest.

California has what, the 6th largest GDP in the world? I'm going from memory, and I'm being lazy, but I certainly wouldn't bash California's economy. It's definitely a productive state, and while many think of the Great Plains as being the world's breadbasket, California certainly puts out more food than any state in the Great Plains.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

I don't know Perry but there isn't a video out with him stumbling around acting like a bafoon for me to watch.

You didn't watch the 2008 Republican presidential primary debates, did you? Rick Perry himself admitted to being hopped up on pills. Should someone of higher power have used their position to force Perry out of the Texas Governor's office?
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

You didn't watch the 2008 Republican presidential primary debates, did you? Rick Perry himself admitted to being hopped up on pills. Should someone of higher power have used their position to force Perry out of the Texas Governor's office?

That was 2012. Perry didn't run in 2008.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

You didn't watch the 2008 Republican presidential primary debates, did you? Rick Perry himself admitted to being hopped up on pills. Should someone of higher power have used their position to force Perry out of the Texas Governor's office?

don't you mean the 2012 republican presidential primary debate.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

You didn't watch the 2008 Republican presidential primary debates, did you? Rick Perry himself admitted to being hopped up on pills. Should someone of higher power have used their position to force Perry out of the Texas Governor's office?

Hopped up on pills? You mean that he was taking non-prescription meds for a non-medical reason? I asked because this is what your choice of phrase suggests.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

Whatever happened to right and wrong? I don't care what their party is, if they break the law or abuse their position they need to go to jail. I watched the videos of Lehmberg and she was way wrong. There is no way she should be a District Attorney. She said she is sorry and I agree with her. She sure is sorry. She is a sorry excuse for a public servant.

I don't know Perry but there isn't a video out with him stumbling around acting like a bafoon for me to watch. I am not real impressed with what I have seen of him.

My prediction:
Perry will not be found guilty of anything.
It will not hurt him politically because of the video of Lehmberg's arrest. A lot of people will look at the video and think he did the right thing, trying to remove her from office.
Lehmberg will not run again for office. If she does then she will not be reelected.

This whole thing may very well backfire on her. It draws people to watch the video of her arrest. People associate behavior with videos more than they do with something in print or text.

WHish ever way this goes it will be interesting to watch.

so should have this senator from idaho have resigned after he was charged with a D.W.I. two ago?

Idaho senator accused of DUI in Virginia - CNN.com
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

That was 2012. Perry didn't run in 2008.

You're right. My bad.

nota bene said:
Hopped up on pills? You mean that he was taking non-prescription meds for a non-medical reason? I asked because this is what your choice of phrase suggests.

No, he was taking prescription meds (not aspirin) for a non-medical reason, at least according to him. Look up the facts for yourself if you don't like the implications. What was the third branch of government that he will shut down? I forgot. "Oops!" said presidential candidate Rick Perry.
 
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