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Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat [W:613/629]

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Keep Austin Weird is the slogan adopted by the Austin Independent Business Alliance to promote small businesses in Austin, Texas. It is intended to promote local businesses and is inspired by comments made by Red Wassenich in 2000 while giving a pledge to an Austin radio station.
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Other cities adopted similar slogans later, such as Portland, Oregon in 2003.

Then thats even more sad for Portland. Thank you. But I think them Portlanders are weirder. (at least that is my bias having grown up in Estacada, Oregon with my flannels and corks).
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

Governors can veto bills because someone paid them to veto a bill?

Is the 'someone paid them to veto a bill' part factual or conjecture?

Yeah, I can see where this Republican's troubles will be trumpeted across the media where as Cuomo's scandal be confined to the back pages, if covered at all.
 
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Just curious, why do you dislike Perry ?

Is it because he's a Republican ?

Because he's had twisted Democrats looking for something to nail him on for years now, and THIS BS charge is the best they can do.

So it's fair to say he's not corrupt, at least not on the level of Politicians like Andrew Cuomo or Barrak Obama, or Hillary Clinton.

He's also a qualified leader and has a long record of accomplishments to run on IF he ever decided to run for President.

Texas's economy is booming and thanks to his leadership millions of Americans from bankrupt States like California now have a second chance at supporting themselves and their families.

So why do you dislike him ?




He's just the kind of slimy politician that I never could stand. I find him to be a lot like Tom Delay, who I also can't stand.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

Governors can veto bills because someone paid them to veto a bill?

Just like President's can veto bills because someone pays them to do so, what is your point? It is legal for a Governor and President to veto a bill regardless of your opinions.
 
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He's just the kind of slimy politician that I never could stand. I find him to be a lot like Tom Delay, who I also can't stand.

Tell me exactly when you met and what you know about Rick Perry? You buy what the media tells you. I live a little closer to the situation than you do and have a better understanding of Perry and TX politics. You have no idea what you are talking about.
 
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Tell me exactly when you met and what you know about Rick Perry? You buy what the media tells you. I live a little closer to the situation than you do and have a better understanding of Perry and TX politics.
You have no idea what you are talking about.[
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That's your opinion, which you are entitled to.

I have no use for it and will ignore it.




IOW: Take a hike. :roll:
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

He's just the kind of slimy politician that I never could stand. I find him to be a lot like Tom Delay, who I also can't stand.


" Slimey " ??

What leads you to believe that he's slimey ?

The way he looks ? The way he dresses ? The way he talks ?

Technically he's been under investigation since he became Governor by Democrats who're waiting for any reason what so ever to malign him.

This indictment is proof of that.

Because there are Politicians that fit the definition of slimey to a T but since they're Democrats their actions are ignored.

Rick Perry has done positive things for Texans and the State of Texas.

Millions of plague Blue State refugees are proof of his qualifications as a leader as they pick up everything they own and chose Texas as a place to raise their families.

Personally I think you simply dislike his because he's a Republican and his success is embarrassing Democrats all iver the Country.

Thats petty.
 
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Tell me exactly when you met and what you know about Rick Perry? You buy what the media tells you. I live a little closer to the situation than you do and have a better understanding of Perry and TX politics./QUOTE]

That's your opinion, which you are entitled to.

I have no use for it and will ignore it.



IOW: Take a hike. :roll:

Of course you will, that is liberal arrogance. Only a liberal in Europe knows more about Texas than someone who has lived here for 22 years. Sorry we saved your ass in WWI and II not so with the many in that area
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

Is the 'someone paid them to veto a bill' part factual or conjecture?

Governors can veto bills because someone paid them to veto a bill?
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

Just like President's can veto bills because someone pays them to do so, what is your point? It is legal for a Governor and President to veto a bill regardless of your opinions.

My point is that one must incredible ignorant to think that a governor can accept a bribe.
 
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My point is that one must incredible ignorant to think that a governor can accept a bribe.

A bribe? what bribe would that be? You speculate and buy leftwing rhetoric. What personal gain would Perry get out of vetoing this bill? How about answering the question, what did any Republican do to hurt you or your family to create this kind of hatred and partisan bs?
 
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A bribe? what bribe would that be? You speculate and buy leftwing rhetoric. What personal gain would Perry get out of vetoing this bill? How about answering the question, what did any Republican do to hurt you or your family to create this kind of hatred and partisan bs?

Can a Governor veto a bill because he was bribed to do so?
 
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Can a Governor veto a bill because he was bribed to do so?

'Can' and 'will', yes. 'May', no.
 
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If he's an " idiot. " what's that make a guy like Jerry Brown ?

At least Rick Perry knows how to run a State, how to build a Strong economy and how to keep his tax base from leaving his State.

Its typical of the left to characterize politicians from the State of Texas as morons.

But it might help your credibility a bit If you people didn't elect ACTUAL morons.


Oh puh-lease. Perry has been giving Texas away to anyone who will come there. There is a reason why corporations would want to accept all of that free corporate welfare. Meanwhile....Texas is tied with Mississippi for having the highest percentage of minimum wage jobs in the entire US. You might want to get your facts straight next time before commenting.
 
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Does the Texas legislature lean Republican? Is so, you know very well why your state representatives will never overturn Perry's veto. But of course, yourself and other Republicans would fall back on "following the rules" knowing full well the rules don't apply when your party is the majority power.

Of course, you expect folks to believe that all the Texas State Legislature has to do if go by the book and everything will be okay. But that can be a problem if the Republican majority has decided to stand by their man and throw the book out the window.

Yes, but what does that matter? You continue to ignore the point, Governors have the right to veto legislation for political reasons, that isn't a violation of the law and the fact remains it doesn't matter if you believe it is an ethical violation, the law gives them that right.

You seem to have so little faith in people. why is that? They elected Obama, didn't they and isn't that what you wanted? A threat of a veto for political reasons doesn't constitute a violation of the law.

Of course, it matters. It matters for the exact same reason House Republicans won't pursue impeachment of the President. They know that they'd never get the Senate with a Democratic majority to entertain doing so. Same goes for the Texas Republican majority legislature. They'll never overturn Republican Gov. Rick Perry's veto on this matter.

Now, you claim that Governors have the right to veto legislation for political reasons. I question not only the legality of doing such a thing but also the ethics of it. I would agree that as part of the political process, Chief Executives can threaten the use of their veto power to "persuade" the legislative body to bring forward a bill with or without provisions more or less to his/her liking for the good of the state (or nation) for which he/she represents. However, I wholeheartedly disagree with the notion that said Chief Executive can exercise his/her veto power to forcefully remove or forcefully "persuade" someone to vacate their position from elected office.

So, again I say if Gov. Perry really disagreed with the job Mrs. Lehmberg was doing or firmly believed that she had misplaced the public trust with her DUI charge, why didn't he just fire her and be done with it? Clearly, he chose to pursue the path of a resignation because it wasn't her job performance that was the issue; it was her character (i.e., DUI). So, to me that begs "Why did he want her out of her job so badly that he'd go to such lengths to see her gone?" Now, let's think about that for a minute...

She's the highest ranking person in a department tasked with investigating ethics violations. As sangha has eluded to, Gov. Perry apparently has accepted money of some sort to get her out. Why? Is there something more going on here the people of Texas know nothing about? Why would Gov. Perry risk political scandal on someone from a low-level office position? Conservative and other wish for folks to believe it's just politics as usual. After all, Mrs. Lehmberg does hold a position in a heavily Democratic area. So, is this a Governor standing up for the highest in moral character OR is this a Governor attempting to cover his tracks by hiding being an exception clause in a coercion state code that provides him cover for exercising his veto power?

Things that make you go, "Hmmmmmm......"???
 
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Hold up, Perry's a complete ass, but i'm not understanding what he did wrong.
 
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Haven't we heard from Obama in speeches that if the house passes something or other he will veto it?

Is that illegal for him to say that, or just do it afterwards?

Apparently keeping your promises is so abhorrent to the liberal value system that it is worthy of 99 years in jail.

I guess that speaks to why Obama is still so popular with liberals
 
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" Slimey " ??

What leads you to believe that he's slimey ?

The way he looks ? The way he dresses ? The way he talks ?

Technically he's been under investigation since he became Governor by Democrats who're waiting for any reason what so ever to malign him.

This indictment is proof of that.

Because there are Politicians that fit the definition of slimey to a T but since they're Democrats their actions are ignored.

Rick Perry has done positive things for Texans and the State of Texas.

Millions of plague Blue State refugees are proof of his qualifications as a leader as they pick up everything they own and chose Texas as a place to raise their families.

Personally I think you simply dislike his because he's a Republican
and his success is embarrassing Democrats all iver the Country.

Thats petty.




That's your opinion, which you are entitled to and I will ignore.




"The only valid censorship of ideas is the right of people not to listen." ~ Tommy Smothers
 
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So, again I say if Gov. Perry really disagreed with the job Mrs. Lehmberg was doing or firmly believed that she had misplaced the public trust with her DUI charge, why didn't he just fire her and be done with it?

Can a Texas governor fire a county district attorney? Wouldn't that be the job of the county commissioners?
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

Of course you will, that is liberal arrogance. Only a liberal in Europe knows more about Texas than someone who has lived here for 22 years.
Sorry we saved your ass in WWI and II
not so with the many in that area




You didn't save my ass anytime, anywhere.

I'm a U.S. citizen and Vietnam War Veteran who was born in 1943 in the USA.

It's easy to run your mouth when you're anonymous on the internet.
 
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Can a Texas governor fire a county district attorney? Wouldn't that be the job of the county commissioners?

Hence, the reason I continue to make the distinction between "duly elected official" and someone appointed to their position by the Governor. Gov. Perry can't fire her and he can't force her to resign through humiliation. So, what's next? Strong-arm her, and it would appear he's hiding behind TX coercion law to do it. Still, I think folks should really start asking themselves "Why her"? And now that you've mentioned it, if DA Lehmberg does come under the control of the county commissioner, wouldn't it make sense to go through him to get her fired than to try and bully her into do so from the executive office?

People really need to start thinking about this beyond the politics of the moment. I'm hard pressed to believe Perry would want her out just because he thinks her drunk driving/DUI conviction violates the public trust, honor and integrity the voters placed in her. His actions makes me wonder if Gov. Perry either has something to hide or something to gain and he's trying to get this woman out of power before the beans are spilled.
 
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Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

Can a Governor veto a bill because he was bribed to do so?

Waiting for proof that he was bribed but the reality is a Governor can veto a bill for any reason he wants. He be damn stupid to accept a bribe but since a veto doesn't end the bill not sure what purpose it would serve
 
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