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Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat [W:613/629]

Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

What were they investigating him for?
Improper grant making to political contributors of state Republican officeholders.

The CPRIT. The Cancer Prevention and Research Institute of Texas.

The funding that Rick Perry vetoed was going to the Travis County DA's Public Integrity Unit, which at the time was going after Rick Perry's appointees on the CPRIT. It's a grant-awarding organization that was created in 2007 per a voter's proposition is supposed to be funding research on cancer, however it had been making grant requests to organizations (skipping scientific and business reviews) tied to politician contributors of Rick Perry, Greg Abbott and David Dewhurst.

Cancer-fighting agency funded projects of Perry contributor | Dallas Morning News
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

I know, damn us right wingers for presuming someone innocent pre trial. You've altered my view point, totally though. Perry's guilty. So when should we hang him? Tonight? After the weekend? Do have a length of rope handy because I don't.

Yes damn you right wingers for presuming one of your politicians innocent before guilty yet presuming an American soldier (Bergdahl) guilty before he even returns to freaking America.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

Gawd! :doh
And?
It has nothing to do with the indictment.
Umm, yes ...? I was answering a question about why Lehmberg’s office was conducting an investigation around the Perry administration. I'm not talking about today's indictment.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

Umm, yes ...? I was answering a question about why Lehmberg’s office was conducting an investigation around the Perry administration. I'm not talking about today's indictment.

Although formed as questions, you were responding with such to a person who was pointing out it had nothing to do with this indictment.

They were investigating Rick Perry ?
For what exactly ?
Because the indictment came down AFTER the Travis County DA got busted for DUI.
If the issue was simply shutting down the DA who's responsible for investigating corrupt lawmakers ( like Andrew Cuomo did ) he would have veoted their spending long ago.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

Although formed as questions, you were responding with such to a person who was pointing out it had nothing to do with this indictment.
You're totally correct. The scuzzy kickback grants have nothing to do with Texas' political environment, or the fact that Rick Perry is now facing indictment.

I know for an absolute fact that Rick Perry is a completely honest guy, only concerned about the taxpaying public, and couldn't possibly carry a grudge against the woman or an organization leading up an investigation intimately involving Rick Perry's administration.

It'd totally be against Rick Perry's nature to be into that type of political payback.
 
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HOT DAMN, SOMEONE ACTUALLY PRESENTED SOME USEFUL INFORMATION!!!! How the hell did that happen? I mean, WTF?!?!?!?!?! This is all supposed to be conjecture and opinion based and Stut brings actual law into the subject.

Thanks, I was getting tired of the usual conjecture, assumptions, rhetoric and speculation. If you were here I would give you a glass of good ole Irish whiskey. You aren't here so I will drink it myself. Thanks for the whiskey.

I think that we are getting a little side-tracked here. I don't believe that Gov. Perry was indicted for his use of the veto, but rather the manner in which it was exercised. The two counts are "Abuse of Official Capacity" and "Coercion of Public Servant". The state laws that apply to this matter are Texas Penal Code Section 39.02: Abuse of Official Capacity, and Section 36.03: Coercion of Public Servant or Voter.

I've pulled some applicable language from both:
From 36.03:
(a) A person commits an offense if by means of coercion he:
(1) influences or attempts to influence a public servant in a specific exercise of his official power or a specific performance of his official duty or influences or attempts to influence a public servant to violate the public servant's known legal duty;

However this may be rendered moot by subsection c:
(c) It is an exception to the application of Subsection (a)(1) of this section that the person who influences or attempts to influence the public servant is a member of the governing body of a governmental entity, and that the action that influences or attempts to influence the public servant is an official action taken by the member of the governing body. For the purposes of this subsection, the term "official action" includes deliberations by the governing body of a governmental entity.

And from 39.02:
(a) A public servant commits an offense if, with intent to obtain a benefit or with intent to harm or defraud another, he intentionally or knowingly:
(1) violates a law relating to the public servant's office or employment; or
(2) misuses government property, services, personnel, or any other thing of value belonging to the government that has come into the public servant's custody or possession by virtue of the public servant's office or employment.

Food for thought...

To everyone else, I haven't seen any proof that the investigation is still active. People say it is but I can't find any statements from any the Public Integrity agency that Lehmberg heads up that the investigation is still active. All I can find is that they indicted one person in December of 2013. After that there doesn't seem to be any movement on the investigation.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

Improper grant making to political contributors of state Republican officeholders.

Were they actually investigating Perry or were they investigating one of his associates? I still haven't found anything official that says they were actually investigating Perry himself. I am not saying they weren't. I am just saying that I can't find anything actually official. I did find one indictment of Abbot.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

When I read a different rag, they said this might hurt perry's chances for a 2016 presidential run, after reading that, I was :lamo.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

Were they actually investigating Perry or were they investigating one of his associates? I still haven't found anything official that says they were actually investigating Perry himself. I am not saying they weren't. I am just saying that I can't find anything actually official. I did find one indictment of Abbot.

Where was that? Got a link? I don't see any indictment of Abbot.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

Yes damn you right wingers for presuming one of your politicians innocent before guilty yet presuming an American soldier (Bergdahl) guilty before he even returns to freaking America.

Well, this is politically motivated, and both sides are guilty of it. Liberals scream bloody murder at the conviction of Don Siegelman, governor of Alabama, who Karl Rove personally went after. Conservatives scream bloody murder at the indictment of Rick Perry. But, in both cases, they broke the law. It's as simple as that. But, whichever side political hacks are on, the will scream witch hunt at one, and scream for the maximum penalty at the other. But, in both cases, the perpetrator could have avoided everything by not breaking the law.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

Well, this is politically motivated, and both sides are guilty of it. Liberals scream bloody murder at the conviction of Don Siegelman, governor of Alabama, who Karl Rove personally went after. Conservatives scream bloody murder at the indictment of Rick Perry. But, in both cases, they broke the law. It's as simple as that. But, whichever side political hacks are on, the will scream witch hunt at one, and scream for the maximum penalty at the other. But, in both cases, the perpetrator could have avoided everything by not breaking the law.

Both sides indeed are, but some people on both sides think their **** don't stink.

It's up to people like you and me to correct them because all of our **** stinks.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

It's Austin. They take pride in being weird.

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They are copying Portland Oregon ..Thats sad.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

Could not have happened to a "nicer" guy.. hope he gets the maximum.
 
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Conservatives scream bloody murder at the indictment of Rick Perry.
I haven't seen that yet. Care to point it out?
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

You're totally correct. The scuzzy kickback grants have nothing to do with Texas' political environment, or the fact that Rick Perry is now facing indictment.

I know for an absolute fact that Rick Perry is a completely honest guy, only concerned about the taxpaying public, and couldn't possibly carry a grudge against the woman or an organization leading up an investigation intimately involving Rick Perry's administration.

It'd totally be against Rick Perry's nature to be into that type of political payback.
You know all that now do you? Wow!
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

A politician gets indicted for something.

:yawn:
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

I haven't seen that yet. Care to point it out?
**Dana points at this thread**
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

It had nothing to do with her. It was the Gov.'s actions because she did not resign. How is veto-ing funding to an entire agency/department solve her as a problem?

Dash cam video of Travis Co. DA's arrest released - MyFoxAustin.com | KTBC Fox 7 | News, Weather, Sports

Tribpedia: Public Integrity Unit | The Texas Tribune

The Public Integrity Unit is a state-funded division of the Travis County District Attorney's Office. It investigates public corruption, insurance fraud, and motor fuels tax fraud.

The Travis County DA holds the chief responsibility for enforcing the government and election code statewide. The unit was created under the leadership of Ronnie Earle, who served as the Travis County DA for three decades until his retirement in 2008. Earle captured national attention with his investigations into U.S. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison and former U.S. Rep. Tom DeLay, R-Sugar Land, and became the poster child for what Republicans view as the unit’s politically motivated prosecutions.


Yes, it's all about her and her dept.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

Actually this thread is about Governor Perry, he's the person who has been indicted and is facing serious jail time, if tried and convicted.

Let's all remember that Perry is innocent until proven guilty, after which his ass will be in jail.

Looking forward to seeing the 'perp walk' photos.

I'm pretty sure Perry cleared this with his legal team before taking action which, if you look at the videos and description of the unit, were warranted. That woman is a disgrace to the word integrity.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

A separate grand jury had already investigated her, and allowed her to stay in her job. Perry then carried out his threat to veto the funds. That is highly illegal in Texas.

What exactly is illegal about the Governor of a state vetoing any bill for any reason?
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

An even larger contingent of right-wingers are ready and willing to excuse whatever happens with Perry.
As we've seen with Bundy and now Missouri .

Whaa???
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

Well, this is politically motivated, and both sides are guilty of it. Liberals scream bloody murder at the conviction of Don Siegelman, governor of Alabama, who Karl Rove personally went after. Conservatives scream bloody murder at the indictment of Rick Perry. But, in both cases, they broke the law. It's as simple as that. But, whichever side political hacks are on, the will scream witch hunt at one, and scream for the maximum penalty at the other. But, in both cases, the perpetrator could have avoided everything by not breaking the law.

I don't see the law that was broken here but as usual any political opponent of both sides has to be destroyed. I remember DeLay indicted. how did that turn out?
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

An even larger contingent of right-wingers are ready and willing to excuse whatever happens with Perry.
As we've seen with Bundy and now Missouri .

Do you have an exact count, because I want an accurate count with proof. Now let's see it.
 
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I doubt this will go anywhere. Only Illinois Governors go to jail. :lol:

It's been since 1917 (IIRC) that a sitting Governor has been indicted but, Perry only has the rest of this year as governor.

This is part of the Left's play to turn Texas Dim. [and I do mean dim]
 
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Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prosecutors' funds

All I can say is HOLY CRAP. This is going to be a political crapstorm.

Article is here.

Huh. I thought a governor had veto power. When did that change?
 
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