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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    He does not have the right to obstruct an investigation, especially when it was he who was being investigated. The State of Texas, in 2012, created a new agency called the Cancer Prevention and Research Institute of Texas. The Public Integrity Unit's job at the time Perry vetoed the funds was an investigation of Perry himself, who was alleged to have been using it as a personal piggy bank in order to give money to people who donated to his campaign.

    1) That the head of the agency was convicted of a DWI is neither here nor there, and that issue put forward by Perry was a red herring, designed to distract people from the real issue, which was the misdirection of funds by Governor Perry. These funds were supposed to go to cancer researchers, not political buddies. That is why Perry was being investigated.

    2) Again, the head of the agency was investigated by a separate grand jury, which ruled that she could keep her job. At that point, Perry's going through with his threat of withholding of funds for the unit became an illegal act under the laws of the State of Texas.

    3) Finally, is there a political motive to this prosecution? Absolutely yes, but Perry could have avoided making himself red meat for the opposition by not breaking the law.
    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    I am not that familiar with the situation, but is thus actually just about taking away funding - because he clearly had the right to do that as Governor, but he did it to manipulate someone out of office (and likely prevent future investigations)

    Perry's been Governor for a LONG time.

    If this is the best they can do then so be it.

    It's just going to piss off allot of Conservatives in a already Red State.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prosecutors' funds

    All I can say is HOLY CRAP. This is going to be a political crapstorm.

    Article is here.
    How much was the office for investigating corruption being funded at?

    Would be highly ironic if he basically promised to shut it down via defunding.
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Are you saying that her actions somehow represented the Office she held? I hope not.
    What an off the wall conclusion for you to hope about.

    Deuce said that the scandal is about Perry cutting fund from a group investigating Perry.
    Then you said it was really about a person who didn't represent the Office she held.
    I pointed out the ostensible connection between Lehmbergs behavior and Perry's.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    What an off the wall conclusion for you to hope about.

    Deuce said that the scandal is about Perry cutting fund from a group investigating Perry.
    Then you said it was really about a person who didn't represent the Office she held.
    I pointed out the ostensible connection between Lehmbergs behavior and Perry's.
    Is that what you think you did? Strange.
    The only connection in what he was indicted for, had absolutely nothing to do with any investigating of him.
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Perry's been Governor for a LONG time.

    If this is the best they can do then so be it.

    It's just going to piss off allot of Conservatives in a already Red State.
    Not really caring how long he has been governor. If he abused his power in order to manipulate an individual or investigation - seems to me to be wrong.

    But it will be interesting to see this unfold. I am very curious about the case and the actual law.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I don't know which one it is either. But governors and presidents has used the threat of vetoes to coerce changes in legislation to include budgets. I can see it now, instead of congress suing over executive orders or executive over reach it brings a suit in court stating the president is trying to coerce the congress into making changes it doesn't want to in the president's official capacity.
    I believe that you can see it.

    Executive approval on legislation losing its value does not seem like a probable or even realistic outcome of this kerfuffle.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    First Delay, now Perry. Nice group these republicans are down here in red-neck Texas.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Is that what you think you did? Strange.
    The only connection in what he was indicted for, had absolutely nothing to do with any investigating of him.
    I am remembering which one of the posters you are and the odd way you use language.

    The group Perry vetoed the funding has something more than "absolutely nothing to do" with the indictment of Perry.
    That's why the indictment and the group are being put together in the same news story.

    Obviously, your mileage varies for some reason.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    The group Perry vetoed the funding has something more than "absolutely nothing to do" with the indictment of Perry.
    That's why the indictment and the group are being put together in the same news story.

    Wrong.
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    from the link in the OP
    ...Perry carried out his veto.

    Texas Gov. Rick Perry indicted for alleged abuse of power in veto dispute | Fox News
    Perry vetoed the money.

    So what is it that you mean when you say that Perry didn't funding the group?
    Do you mean that Perry tried and failed?

    Or what exactly?

    You're being disingenuous.

    Perry veto wasn't to shut down the extremely Liberal Travis county DAs office.

    If that was his intention why did wait this long to do it ?

    This was over a specific legislator who was caught driving under the influence.

    Perry has the authority to Veto AND announcing his intentions to veto.

    Only Democrat Governors shut down State funded investigative groups.

    Like Andrew Cuomo for example.

    Notice the Libs have kept that to them selves for some reason.

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