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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Well, the basics are known at this point, and not even an attorney with an ordinary practice is necessarily going to have a sophisticated understanding of the details of the law(s) on which this case may hinge. So I'm going to be paying attention to what legal experts say. Dershowitz has weighed in already, but it's Texas experts who are really going to understand the law. Here's what Dick DeGuerin, who is one of those experts, says:

    “The defendant has a distinct advantage in this case, because the governor of Texas has an absolute veto power over legislation — and that's what he did in this case,” said Dick DeGuerin, a Houston attorney who has defended such high-profile clients as former U.S. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay. Legal experts call Perry indictment a stretch - San Antonio Express-News
    Absolutely correct and that is the Bottom line

    the governor of Texas has an absolute veto power over legislation
    The DA still has her job, this is nothing more than total character destruction and taking out another threat. The liberals cannot win on ideas so they have to destroy the individual

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Perry can veto anything he wants. However.....

    1) He is not allowed to abuse his powers by making threats. That is a felony. The statute that applies is Texas 39.02DPS23990064

    2) He is not allowed to pressure a public employee to resign by making a threat. That constitutes coercion, and is also a felony. The statute that applies is Texas 36.03DPS13990027

    First of all that so called threat is well within the powers of the Governor but she still has her job so she wasn't harmed personally in any way.

    You don't think elected officials put pressure on people to resign all the time. You may not like it but that is reality. Again she still has her job so tell me how was she hurt by that threat?

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    First of all that so called threat is well within the powers of the Governor but she still has her job so she wasn't harmed personally in any way.

    You don't think elected officials put pressure on people to resign all the time. You may not like it but that is reality. Again she still has her job so tell me how was she hurt by that threat?
    Abuse of power in a quid pro quo is still illegal. Perry's mistake was making it so overt.

    As an example: A congressman has the legal power to vote for or against a piece of legislation. However, it's still illegal for that congressman to come out and say "if you pay me money, I'll vote for this!"
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Let it play out in court.

    Not really rocket science.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    Yes indeed.


    Rick Perry was an Austin Democrat right up unto the point at which he became an indirect Exxon employee. Now it's hard to tell if he truly believes or ever did believe anything politically speaking.
    Links please.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    First of all that so called threat is well within the powers of the Governor but she still has her job so she wasn't harmed personally in any way.

    You don't think elected officials put pressure on people to resign all the time. You may not like it but that is reality. Again she still has her job so tell me how was she hurt by that threat?
    Seems you have a problem with the law. Take that up with the State of Texas. Those 2 laws have been on the books for more than a century.
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    ... most independent people and legal types call it a reach at best and an abuse of process...
    You have some polling data?
    Sweet!

    Share, dude. Link us up with that data.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Seems you have a problem with the law. Take that up with the State of Texas. Those 2 laws have been on the books for more than a century.
    Reading Conservative's spiel I can't help but read the reasoning as so:

    Trading money for services is a perfectly wonderful thing to do.
    Nothing illegal about trading money for services at all. It's just common sense.

    So, just because some one trades a whore money for a blowjob or trades a politician money for influence, it's not illegal.
    It's just people trading money for services rendered.
    Trading money for services is not a crime.
    People do it everyday.
    Therefore prostitution and bribery are not crimes--they're just people trading goods for services

    Idk if Perry committed a crime or not.
    Honestly don't give a ****.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    It is not an interference.
    If she had resigned she would have had no duties to preform.

    The indictment is flawed.
    It would be like saying the electorate not reelecting her would be interfering with her duties. When it simply isn't.
    Assuming it went down as accused, Perry basically said "resign or I'll cut funding to this program".

    How is that NOT interference?
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Assuming it went down as accused, Perry basically said "resign or I'll cut funding to this program".

    How is that NOT interference?
    He has not interfered with her doing any aspect of her job.
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