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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Perry's public statements bear out the factuality of the indictment. He has, in essence, already admitted guilt to at least Count II of the indictment:
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Yes, she did, but was it conducted in the performance of her duties?

    You see, an elected official can be charged with misconduct and such could apply to her performance on and off duty. But that's not the charge levied against her. Her's is public intoxication. As such, was she drinking on or off the clock?

    It may sound like semantics, but it really isn't. Regardless, I agree that she should have resigned. However, I disagree that she should be forced to do so by the TX Governor.
    Texas Code does provide for the removal from office of a public official for intoxication on or off-duty:

    Sec. 87.013. GENERAL GROUNDS FOR REMOVAL. (a) An officer may be removed for
    1) incompetency;
    (2) official misconduct; or
    (3) intoxication on or off duty caused by drinking an alcoholic beverage.
    LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 87. REMOVAL OF COUNTY OFFICERS FROM OFFICE; FILLING OF VACANCIES

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Perry's public statements bear out the factuality of the indictment. He has, in essence, already admitted guilt to at least Count II of the indictment:
    Hmm...

    What I'm getting here is that:
    It's not illegal to veto funding for something.
    It's not illegal to ask/demand an elected official resign.
    However if you veto something specifically for the purpose of putting pressure on an elected official to resign, it's questionable at best and possibly illegal.

    The problem is proving that things went down as stated in this Count II.
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

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    This is frustrating, that article relates to Federal Minimum wage whereas over 20 plus states have their own, California is one of them. You cannot seem to grasp the concept that 1.6 million Californians made minimum wage and 500,000 Texans.
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

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    She wasn't forced to resign, what part of that don't you understand?
    No, she wasn't forced to resign. There was an attempt to force her to resign, hence the indictment.
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Did anybody say it was?


    Offhand I'd say all the facts of this case are already known. Would you care to hypothesize otherwise?
    These 2 statements seem to run contrary to each other. In one statement, is an acknowledgement that it's only 1/2 the story, facts, (or less) are known, and in the other, that all the facts are already known. So which is it? Or can't you decide what you think?

    As stated, I don't think that all the facts are known, and they'll come out with further investigation and at trial. You've agreed with that in the first statement. Let's just go with that for now.
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Rick Perry is the definition of irony.


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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    No, she wasn't forced to resign. There was an attempt to force her to resign, hence the indictment.
    That is the right of any employer or Governor and there is nothing illegal about it, just like there is nothing illegal about Perry vetoing funding regardless of the reason. Liberals believe they can do no wrong and are "entitled" to a job for life and when challenged they always seek legal relief. Liberals aren't going to like the court rulings. If it is a jury trial and they find 12 idiots who don't understand the responsibilities of the Governor the appeals court will overrule on the merits and the law. She is going to have a hard time proving that she was personally hurt by the Governor's action.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    That is the right of any employer or Governor and there is nothing illegal about it [...]
    First, the Travis County DA is employed by the people of Travis county. They did not try to fire her, and there is definitely a legal process for them to do so if they wish.

    Second, it is most certainly not the right of the Governor to fire or force the resignation of an elected official, especially a county-elected official. Otherwise what is the point of even having an election?

    Your argument seems more tailored for non-democratic governments like Russia, China, Iran, etc. Perhaps those are more Perry's style as well.

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