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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Yes, she did, but was it conducted in the performance of her duties?

    You see, an elected official can be charged with misconduct and such could be applied her performance on and off duty. But that's not the charge levied against her. Her's is public intoxication. As such, was she drinking on or off the clock?

    It may sound like semantics, but it really isn't. Regardless, I agree that she should have resigned. However, I disagree that she should be forced to do so by the TX Governor.

    I keep hearing she was forced to resign. When exactly did that happen? You think cutting part of her budget which wasn't her salary forced her to resign. You see you easily buy what you are being told.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Then it is the taxpayers who elected her who should make that decision with the power of their vote OR their voices by either contacting the DA's office directly and voicing their displeasure, protesting or contacting the County Commissioner.
    You seem to miss the point, Perry didn't cut her entire budget thus her salary only part of it. Was her salary affected?

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Just use Google and the stories abound.
    Yes, I looked. The stories are all about the present, partially or even largely unknown facts of the indictment.

    So that'd be parroting the biased lame stream media then.
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    So, in other words, he should act like a two-faced liberal and not be honest with the voting public about what he's doing - is that it?
    No he should have cut funding then when asked explained his action. Instead he used threats and the DA of Travis county called him on it.

    Now I am not going to argue that this isn't politics as usual, but Perry walked himself into this problem.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Heard about this on the radio news while driving to work a couple days ago....

    Personally, I'm not too clear on what exactly he is accused of doing, so I'll reserve judgement for the moment.
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    The underlined portion of your statement is what some are starting to question. Who would he have recommended to replace her? To that, let me ask the following questions:

    1. Prior to the public intoxication conviction, had Gov. Perry ever publically complained about DA Lehmberg's job performance or that of the Public Integrity Unit she managed?

    2. Assuming such charges of poor performance and unsatisfactory results were levied by Gov. Perry against DA Lehmberg, were they every substantiated?

    What I'm getting at was there every a pattern of poor performance from DA Lehmberg and the PIU prior to the public intox conviction and did the Governor make such public?
    My answer would be that I have no evidence that Governor Perry was dissatisfied with the DA's job performance prior to her being arrested, convicted, and serving time for DUI. I think that clearly provides Governor Perry with cover that this is simply him being political and opposing a Democrat. He made the "promise" to veto the funding bill after her conviction and disgraceful actions, not before. As such, the veto threat was directly related to his view of her lack of integrity and fitness for the office she held, not her political affiliation.
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Yes, I looked. The stories are all about the present, partially or even largely unknown facts of the indictment.

    So that'd be parroting the biased lame stream media then.
    We'll see.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    And the courts will with progressives not liking the outcome. Governors have the authority to veto legislation for any reason they want and that is what they are going to rule in this case. Lehmberg didn't have to resign at all, part of her budget wasn't funded. She could have gone to the legislature and court of public opinion to get the veto overturned but the reality is she wanted to make this political as do most liberals
    This is absolutely true - the Texas legislature has the constitutional right to overturn a Governor's veto if they don't agree with it. Was this attempted? Did the DA, a politician, lobby politicians to her cause? Could it be that the vast majority of politicians from both sides in the Texas legislature were glad the Governor vetoed the bill?

    Moving political mudslinging to the courts is dangerous and wrong - that's why your country has separation of powers provisions.
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I keep hearing she was forced to resign. When exactly did that happen? You think cutting part of her budget which wasn't her salary forced her to resign. You see you easily buy what you are being told.
    You don't see how cutting the budget to the office she had a duty to oversee had the potential of making her job more difficult? I'm sure you see what Gov. Perry did as using the power of the purse. I'd take the position as well IF the funding cut was done due to necessary budgetary reductions, but it wasn't.

    You don't see how the Governor of any given state making public statements that equate to "either you'll leave office or I'll force you out" and then following through with that forceful action as a problem? If that's not a clear violation of ethics, I don't know what is. But that's in effect what Gov. Perry did. It's unfortunate that on the one hand you see what Gov. Perry (R) did as right and just, but you condemn President Obama (D) when he makes similar veto threats only they aren't made to force someone to resign from their duly elected position. But I think I understand now why you see Gov. Perry's actions as just.

    It comes down to the power of the purse. If Congress can do it to the President to render him ineffective, why not a Governor (of a Republican-held state)?
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Can you quote or explain the provisions of the Texas constitution or Texas law that allows the governor to punish individual people outside of the legal system?
    Who was punished outside of the legal system?
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