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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Well, isn't that the goal of the Nationalists anyway? If you want one gigantic, unfettered bureaucracy then you have to bump off any obstructions. Right?
    Exactly, I wonder how all of this will play out. I guess the time honored adage, time will tell is the only answer I can come up with.
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    He does not have the right to obstruct an investigation, especially when it was he who was being investigated. The State of Texas, in 2012, created a new agency called the Cancer Prevention and Research Institute of Texas. The Public Integrity Unit's job at the time Perry vetoed the funds was an investigation of Perry himself, who was alleged to have been using it as a personal piggy bank in order to give money to people who donated to his campaign.

    1) That the head of the agency was convicted of a DWI is neither here nor there, and that issue put forward by Perry was a red herring, designed to distract people from the real issue, which was the misdirection of funds by Governor Perry. These funds were supposed to go to cancer researchers, not political buddies. That is why Perry was being investigated.

    2) Again, the head of the agency was investigated by a separate grand jury, which ruled that she could keep her job. At that point, Perry's going through with his threat of withholding of funds for the unit became an illegal act under the laws of the State of Texas.
    Was that what he was indicted for?
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Over a person who didn't represent, by her actions, the Office she held, Perry cut funding to a group investigating him?

    Are you saying that her actions somehow represented the Office she held? I hope not.

    Nor am I aware that he has to fund anything in his State where a person in control of an Office, really doesn't represent what the Office Stands for.
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    He didn't stop funding the group that was investigating him.
    from the link in the OP
    ...Perry carried out his veto.

    Texas Gov. Rick Perry indicted for alleged abuse of power in veto dispute | Fox News
    Perry vetoed the money.

    So what is it that you mean when you say that Perry didn't funding the group?
    Do you mean that Perry tried and failed?

    Or what exactly?
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    He does not have the right to obstruct an investigation, especially when it was he who was being investigated. The State of Texas, in 2012, created a new agency called the Cancer Prevention and Research Institute of Texas. The Public Integrity Unit's job at the time Perry vetoed the funds was an investigation of Perry himself, who was alleged to have been using it as a personal piggy bank in order to give money to people who donated to his campaign.

    1) That the head of the agency was convicted of a DWI is neither here nor there, and that issue put forward by Perry was a red herring, designed to distract people from the real issue, which was the misdirection of funds by Governor Perry. These funds were supposed to go to cancer researchers, not political buddies. That is why Perry was being investigated.

    2) Again, the head of the agency was investigated by a separate grand jury, which ruled that she could keep her job. At that point, Perry's going through with his threat of withholding of funds for the unit became an illegal act under the laws of the State of Texas.

    3) Finally, is there a political motive to this prosecution? Absolutely yes, but Perry could have avoided making himself red meat for the opposition by not breaking the law.

    He was indicted for " cutting funding of the group that investigated him " ?

    THAT was the actual indictment ?

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Please try to stay focused.

    Perry has the authority to Veto, and his announcing a veto before doing it is what's this ridiculous indictment is all about.

    He didn't stop funding the group that was investigating him.

    You're thinking of Andrew Cuomo.

    This is such a BS indictment it will simply back fire on the Democrats who've perpetuated it.
    Vetoing a bill that provides funding to the people investigating him. Have you heard the phrase "conflict of interest?"
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Unless there actually is something which makes this different from run of the mill vetoes.
    The words in the article made it sound like part of the problem was the way in which it was done.

    So it's possible that there could be something wrong with a single instance of an act which is not wrong with all instances of an act.
    If that were the case here, then there would be not categorical, catastrophic consequences for executive branches.

    But maybe that other odd, un-workable thing that you're afraid of is what is really going on.
    idk
    don't care too much either
    I don't know which one it is either. But governors and presidents has used the threat of vetoes to coerce changes in legislation to include budgets. I can see it now, instead of congress suing over executive orders or executive over reach it brings a suit in court stating the president is trying to coerce the congress into making changes it doesn't want to in the president's official capacity.
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    That the head of the agency was convicted of a DWI is neither here nor there, and that issue put forward by Perry was a red herring, designed to distract people from the real issue, which was the misdirection of funds by Governor Perry.
    Perry knows his audience.

    Good move on his part. Good move as in I bet it will work as expected.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Please try to stay focused.

    Perry has the authority to Veto, and his announcing a veto before doing it is what's this ridiculous indictment is all about.

    He didn't stop funding the group that was investigating him.

    You're thinking of Andrew Cuomo.

    This is such a BS indictment it will simply back fire on the Democrats who've perpetuated it.
    I am not that familiar with the situation, but is thus actually just about taking away funding - because he clearly had the right to do that as Governor, but he did it to manipulate someone out of office (and likely prevent future investigations)

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