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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Bottom line, however, is that government leaders use the power of the purse to get things done - always have, always will. Better line them all up and start the parade to the courts.
    Th GJ has asserted that certain elements of what happened distinguish this affair form run of the mill veto anduse of the purse strings.
    Do you know what those distinguishing attributes are?
    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    As I have stated in this thread many times, the bottom line is that any Governor has the right to exercise his veto authority on any piece of legislation for any reason thus end of discussion.
    Well, to be fair, that just the opinion of some guy on the internet. why should we give your opinion any weight? To make your case you should use Texas law and the information contained in the indictment. Otherwise, you're not actually debating, you're just gainsaying the GJ.


    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    The Travis County DA, is arrested for DUI, That send a good message, it's ok for the highest law enforcement person
    in the county to break the law.
    She was arrested and sentenced to do time.
    Imho, when we say that certain acts will cause you to do time, that is a message of discouragement.
    In your opinion, sending someone to jail for an act sends the message that that act is "ok"?
    Dayum.
    What do we have to do for you to understand that a message is a message of discouragement?
    Public beheadings?
    Slaughter their family and sell their children into slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    ...Perry has legal control over where monies for special law enforcement projects go.
    Apparently not because he had to use a veto against what the Texas legislature had approved instead of merely changing the budget of the "special law enforcement project".

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    He tells her, if she does not resign, her department will not receive the funding. (this is not a threat, but a statement)
    You might ought to spend some time reading up on equivocation..
    Or maybe not. You seem quite apt to use it. Perhaps you're already well-versed.

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    How can anybody think that Lehmberg is fit to over see the Public Integrity Unit?
    Well they are Texans, the GJ who failed to indict Lehmberg over her arrest and conviction.
    Texans may hold a different view of getting drunk and acting a fool than you are I do.


    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    The reason the Democrats get away with this is there is NO reprisal from the Republicans. If they don't want this crap to happen to them then they need start returning the favor in spades and do it with gusto. Put a couple of Democrat heads on sticks and tell the Democrats if they wish to continue down the road of political destruction by indictment they will be happy to oblige them.
    You're new to Texas politics, yes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    What's puzzling is why Democrats would support this behavior. It seems a (D) after a name is more important than the character and substance of the candidate.
    It's also puzzling why you think anyone is endorsing Lehmberg's obnoxious drunken bender.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    As usual with you it's BS! The only funding Perry shut off was money used to investigate corruption. It looks like Perry was attempting to cover his own ass, something Nixon taught you republicans well.
    Doesn't matter what his reason, he has the authority to do that and the Legislature has the authority to override his veto. Take a civics class.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Doesn't matter what his reason, he has the authority to do that and the Legislature has the authority to override his veto. Take a civics class.
    You're funny.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Well, to be fair, that just the opinion of some guy on the internet. why should we give your opinion any weight? To make your case you should use Texas law and the information contained in the indictment. Otherwise, you're not actually debating, you're just gainsaying the GJ.
    Very simple, my statement was factually correct. There doesn't need to be a reason for a Governor to veto legislation. Sorry, but that is a fact and up to the citizens of the state to change it. Many want to make their own changes to the state Constitution and because Perry is a Republican have him convicted.

    You see the problem in this country is blind partisanship where 43% of the people will vote for the Democrat regardless of qualifications and regardless of any indiscretions including probably committing a crime in public and seen on TV. 26% will do the same for a Republican. We are seeing here who belongs to that 43%

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Well, to be fair, that just the opinion of some guy on the internet. why should we give your opinion any weight? To make your case you should use Texas law and the information contained in the indictment. Otherwise, you're not actually debating, you're just gainsaying the GJ.
    Very simple, my statement was factually correct. There doesn't need to be a reason for a Governor to veto legislation. Sorry, but that is a fact and up to the citizens of the state to change it. Many want to make their own changes to the state Constitution and because Perry is a Republican have him convicted.

    You see the problem in this country is blind partisanship where 43% of the people will vote for the Democrat regardless of qualifications and regardless of any indiscretions including probably committing a crime in public and seen on TV. 26% will do the same for a Republican. We are seeing here who belongs to that 43%

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    As usual with you it's BS! The only funding Perry shut off was money used to investigate corruption. It looks like Perry was attempting to cover his own ass, something Nixon taught you republicans well.
    Covering his ass for what exactly ?
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    I think the thing here is, he would have been fine if he didn't say anything about her resigning and he vetoed it.

    It's like you can decide not to hire someone because they are black. But if you tell them you are not hiring them because they are black you are in trouble.

    Gov. Perry stating his reason is why this falls into a grey enough area that a Grand Jury indicted him.
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Like Judge Jeanine states, "Grand juries will indict a ham sandwich". And evidently in Austin Texas, they like ham.



    Well said Judge! Next!

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    The position of using his power as an elected official to try to force another elected official to resign?

    How is that position not an abuse of authority?
    Greetings, Karl.

    If it had been done covertly, or secretly, rather than out in the open as he handled it, I might agree with you. He chose not to act in an under-handed or backstabbing way. Instead, he explained to the people of Texas why he felt that the position that she held required maintaining the public trust in receiving fair treatment for all, and he was open and upfront about it. Public perception is important, and time will tell us if he was correct.

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