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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    And if you believe all that, you have no grasp of what caused the recession, and the long path out of them. The conditions were closer to 1929 than any recession since. Look around the world - how many economies boomed after the collapse? No industrialized economies did. And it's because it takes years to work off the debt loads to get them back to sustainable levels. Consumers (individuals) saw trillions in wealth wiped away, in housing and in their portfolios. That wasn't any path to restore housing values to bubble levels, and that loss in wealth was just going to crimp consumption for years, not months. Etc.

    The broader point is there are many legitimate arguments against Obama's and the democrats' policy choices, but anyone who wants to blame the recession on Obama and pretend there was a path to a quick recovery from it is showing their ignorance, and/or blind partisanship.

    Here is a picture of job losses versus all previous recessions except the Great Depression:

    That is your opinion which you are entitled to but it defies reality. Tell me exactly who this recession affected you and your family? Tell me what economic program Obama implemented that showed leadership in the face of the recession? You buy what you are told and ignore reality.

    It is every easy to point to the 750,000 jobs lost in the last two months of the Bush Administration but you never mention the million discouraged most of 2010 that weren't counted and made the official unemployment number look better than it was. Even today the discouraged workers are close to 800,000. Please let me know when Bush ever had 800,000 discouraged workers?

    You see, you buy the rhetoric and ignore the results. Before Democrats took control of the legislative Process Bush inherited the Clinton recession, had 9/11, and still had over 9 million jobs created. Democrats were more interested in regaining the WH than doing their job. So what did Obama do, he signed a stimulus program that went into effect February 2009 that failed to create the shovel ready jobs promised. He saw the failure of that stimulus program and followed it up with Obamacare. Now tell me that shows leadership?

    Nice diversion though on a tread where so called people who are concerned about ethics ignore the failed ethics of Obama to attack Rick Perry for doing his job and vetoing a bill that would have given money to someone who truly abused the taxpayer trust. Isn't it amazing how authorities were wrong and this DA wasn't when she drove drunk threatening innocent taxpayers on the road?

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Governor Perry doesn't have the authority to force this woman to resign; he's using the power of his office to further the ends of the Republic Party here in Texas. If the voters want to remove this woman from office that is their right. It's not the right of the Governor.

    And then to punish the department because Perry doesn't get his way is childish.

    He DOES have the authority to Veto spending, AND he has the authority to talk about that Veto before doing it.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Governor Perry doesn't have the authority to force this woman to resign; he's using the power of his office to further the ends of the Republic Party here in Texas. If the voters want to remove this woman from office that is their right. It's not the right of the Governor.

    And then to punish the department because Perry doesn't get his way is childish.
    That is your opinion, Governor Perry had the authority to veto the bill for whatever reason he wanted but what bothers me is you have no trouble sending taxpayer money to a department under this DA's control. The lack of logic and common sense is yours.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Lehmberg should have immediately resigned. That would have been the honorable choice. She could always have rehabilitated herself and run again, you know, after doing the required public penance.

    Maybe somebody will do a mix of the lowlights of her sobriety field tests and drunken behavior. That would be funny. But even while smashed on her ass, her only thought was for her political career and not for what's good for the people who elected her. She said in the squad car, "you've just ruined my career" and said it again at the jail. (She basically played the celebrity "Don't you know who I AM?" card and told LE that they were going to be in jail, not her.)

    How can anybody think that Lehmberg is fit to over see the Public Integrity Unit?
    I find it odd that an elected official who serves time in jail (42 days in this case, if I'm not mistaken) doesn't automatically vacate their elected office. Here in Ontario, Canada, that's the case. It certainly shouldn't be left up to the individual to decide to do the right thing - after all, they wouldn't be in jail if they decided to do the right thing in the first place.
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    You're the guy who brought the 'hate' word into this conversation.

    I never use that word, but I do have a strong dislike for those who try to label others with false accusations and have zero proof.

    Then buy a mirror, and check yourself...I am done with you.
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    That is your opinion, Governor Perry had the authority to veto the bill for whatever reason he wanted but what bothers me is you have no trouble sending taxpayer money to a department under this DA's control. The lack of logic and common sense is yours.
    First, the fact that it bothers you is a plus in my book, and yes I would have no problem sending money to this office, of course, I don't live in that county.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Governor Perry doesn't have the authority to force this woman to resign; he's using the power of his office to further the ends of the Republic Party here in Texas. If the voters want to remove this woman from office that is their right. It's not the right of the Governor.

    And then to punish the department because Perry doesn't get his way is childish.
    I thought being childish was a prerequisite of running for office - after all, have you seen Obama's tantrums when Congress won't play his game with his rules?
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Why do you lie?

    I haven't said anything about Perry's guilt or innocence and even if I did, it would still be hypocritical for you to complain given the way you have already convicted the dems and the media without *any* facts
    You start from the position that he's guilty. That was already clear when you intimated, or tried to, that he took a bribe.
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I thought being childish was a prerequisite of running for office - after all, have you seen Obama's tantrums when Congress won't play his game with his rules?
    No, I was too busy watching Boehner cry on TV.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    He's got a whole lot to worry about. He's got the national Democrat party that wants to use him to destroy not only his political career (which would be over at the end of this term anyway) but the whole Republican party. There will be no pulled punches here and I guarantee you that a lot of main stream Republicans will run from him like he's a skunk in heat because they don't want their name to be associated with this.

    Sure, the charges are bull**** and everybody knows that but the political motives FAR outweigh any thoughts of integrity or justice. This is simply the world we live in today. If the Democrats take issue with you and your destruction can serve an end goal they have you're going to be pummeled. Right now they are going after Scott Walker and they have Rick Perry on the ropes so the only real question we should be asking is "Who's next?"
    The reason the Democrats get away with this is there is NO reprisal from the Republicans. If they don't want this crap to happen to them then they need start returning the favor in spades and do it with gusto. Put a couple of Democrat heads on sticks and tell the Democrats if they wish to continue down the road of political destruction by indictment they will be happy to oblige them.
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