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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    LOL, now that is funny and hopefully sarcasm. The recession ended in June 2009 long before Obama had any economic policy in place and as a matter of fact we are still waiting for some of those shovels to arrive. This is the worst recovery on record and shows that when we told supporters that Obama was unqualified, had zero leadership skills, had no meaningful record in the Senate and was nothing more than a community agitator too many ignored that but realize it now. That is what happens with far too many buy rhetoric vs. doing any research. Nice attempt though at diverting the thread and this has nothing to do with the OP
    And if you believe all that, you have no grasp of what caused the recession, and the long path out of them. The conditions were closer to 1929 than any recession since. Look around the world - how many economies boomed after the collapse? No industrialized economies did. And it's because it takes years to work off the debt loads to get them back to sustainable levels. Consumers (individuals) saw trillions in wealth wiped away, in housing and in their portfolios. That wasn't any path to restore housing values to bubble levels, and that loss in wealth was just going to crimp consumption for years, not months. Etc.

    The broader point is there are many legitimate arguments against Obama's and the democrats' policy choices, but anyone who wants to blame the recession on Obama and pretend there was a path to a quick recovery from it is showing their ignorance, and/or blind partisanship.

    Here is a picture of job losses versus all previous recessions except the Great Depression:


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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    The gist of the questions, as laid out above, is it proper for a holder of a public office to use the constitutional powers of that office in order to affect public/government policy deemed to be beneficial to the government?
    That begs the question "Is it beneficial to the govt for an officeholder to use governmental powers to undo the results of an election because he doesn't like the winner?"
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Wow.......

    Me ? Deflection ?

    You just absolutely ignored her arrest, the VIDEO of her arrest and the fact she was arrested for driving with a blood alcohol level 3 times the legal limit.

    You ignored Perry's stated reason so you could invent some partisan BS hypothetical.

    Perry didn't act before because she hadn't been busted for driving drunk yet, and making a complete ass of herself.

    Are you sure you don't work for Travis County ?
    Is she still licensed to practice law?
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    That begs the question "Is it beneficial to the govt for an officeholder to use governmental powers to undo the results of an election because he doesn't like the winner?"
    It's not a matter of like or dislike, but deemed fitness to hold the office - however, on that basis, in some cases yes - that's why impeachment procedures exist.
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    And if you believe all that, you have no grasp of what caused the recession, and the long path out of them. The conditions were closer to 1929 than any recession since. Look around the world - how many economies boomed after the collapse? No industrialized economies did. And it's because it takes years to work off the debt loads to get them back to sustainable levels. Consumers (individuals) saw trillions in wealth wiped away, in housing and in their portfolios. That wasn't any path to restore housing values to bubble levels, and that loss in wealth was just going to crimp consumption for years, not months. Etc.

    The broader point is there are many legitimate arguments against Obama's and the democrats' policy choices, but anyone who wants to blame the recession on Obama and pretend there was a path to a quick recovery from it is showing their ignorance, and/or blind partisanship.

    Here is a picture of job losses versus all previous recessions except the Great Depression:

    The chart you presented seems to prove that the two Presidents Bush - Sr. in 1990 and Jr. in 2001 - put forward the best policies to counter a recession in the shortest period of time. I believed as much, but thanks for the verification.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    Is she still licensed to practice law?


    I don't know, probably.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    "Could be".... Hell in 20 years NY could be a red state....You have no idea what you are talking about,
    you're just driven by hate.



    You're the guy who brought the 'hate' word into this conversation.

    I never use that word, but I do have a strong dislike for those who try to label others with false accusations and have zero proof.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by BWG View Post
    McCrum? He's the special prosecutor that professed his love for the gov and oversaw the GJ that indicted Rick "Adios MOFO" Perry.
    Earn your living speaking, and you're eventually going to stumble into a double entendre or find out too late that a mic is hot. But I still think that "Adios, mofo" is hilarious, especially because it has beyond the ordinary one, a particular meaning for Perry. There was a funny gif at the time of him in long braids too.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    To me this sounds like a clear case of proprietorial misconduct.
    The Travis County DA, is arrested for DUI, That send a good message, it's ok for the highest law enforcement person
    in the county to break the law.
    Perry thinks she should resign, She does not, Perry has legal control over where monies for special law enforcement projects go.
    He tells her, if she does not resign, her department will not receive the funding. (this is not a threat, but a statement)
    She decides to turn down the funding for her department, and stay on the job.
    The Travis county DA's office then seeks and gets an indictment against Perry.
    Perry acted within his legal authority, The DA office looks to be the ones with a vendetta.
    Lehmberg should have immediately resigned. That would have been the honorable choice. She could always have rehabilitated herself and run again, you know, after doing the required public penance.

    Maybe somebody will do a mix of the lowlights of her sobriety field tests and drunken behavior. That would be funny. But even while smashed on her ass, her only thought was for her political career and not for what's good for the people who elected her. She said in the squad car, "you've just ruined my career" and said it again at the jail. (She basically played the celebrity "Don't you know who I AM?" card and told LE that they were going to be in jail, not her.)

    How can anybody think that Lehmberg is fit to over see the Public Integrity Unit?

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    It's not a matter of like or dislike, but deemed fitness to hold the office - however, on that basis, in some cases yes - that's why impeachment procedures exist.
    Governor Perry doesn't have the authority to force this woman to resign; he's using the power of his office to further the ends of the Republic Party here in Texas. If the voters want to remove this woman from office that is their right. It's not the right of the Governor.

    And then to punish the department because Perry doesn't get his way is childish.

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