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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    Who is Michael McCrum?
    McCrum? He's the special prosecutor that professed his love for the gov and oversaw the GJ that indicted Rick "Adios MOFO" Perry.



    "I took into account the fact that we're talking about ... the governor of the state of Texas, which we all love. Obviously, that carries a level of importance," said the special prosecutor in the case, Michael McCrum, of San Antonio. "But when it gets down to it, the law is the law."

    Perry indicted on two felony charges - Houston Chronicle
    “We just simply don’t know how to govern” - Rep. Steve Womack (R-AR) a member of the House Budget Committee

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    The problem isn't the veto, the problem was the threat of having someone resign. Now will that case stand in a court, who knows. But the demanding of a resignation or cutting funding is the legal question here.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    To me this sounds like a clear case of proprietorial misconduct.
    The Travis County DA, is arrested for DUI, That send a good message, it's ok for the highest law enforcement person
    in the county to break the law.
    Perry thinks she should resign, She does not, Perry has legal control over where monies for special law enforcement projects go.
    He tells her, if she does not resign, her department will not receive the funding. (this is not a threat, but a statement)
    She decides to turn down the funding for her department, and stay on the job.
    The Travis county DA's office then seeks and gets an indictment against Perry.
    Perry acted within his legal authority, The DA office looks to be the ones with a vendetta.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    OK, let's start with Rick Perry.
    I'm not the type to think the courts should be used to overturn an election my party or candidate didn't or couldn't win. That's not my kind of democracy. Abuse of the justice system is far more dangerous, in my view, than a Governor exercising his constitutional prerogative to affect change.
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I'm not the type to think the courts should be used to overturn an election my party or candidate didn't or couldn't win. That's not my kind of democracy. Abuse of the justice system is far more dangerous, in my view, than a Governor exercising his constitutional prerogative to affect change.
    Good thing you live in Canada then, isn't it?

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Which should lead people to ask, "Why now? Why her? Why this path (Gov's veto power) to oust her?"

    Folks have rightfully asked what did Gov. Perry have to gain by forcing the DA to resign. The answer my be below:






    The rest of your comment is mere deflection.

    Wow.......

    Me ? Deflection ?

    You just absolutely ignored her arrest, the VIDEO of her arrest and the fact she was arrested for driving with a blood alcohol level 3 times the legal limit.

    You ignored Perry's stated reason so you could invent some partisan BS hypothetical.

    Perry didn't act before because she hadn't been busted for driving drunk yet, and making a complete ass of herself.

    Are you sure you don't work for Travis County ?

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Notice she blames the Cop for " ruining her career. "

    She doesn't take personal responsibility for her actions, she blames the arresting officer. ....

    Wow.
    Good morning, Fenton.

    Her irrational chutzpah, [blaming the officer for jeopardizing her job because she was caught driving while drunk] which apparently passes for normal behavior in her world of special privilege, is a sign of twisted thinking, IMO, especially for one who has the job of deciding what is considered ethical for everyone else. Perry is right to withhold funds until this problem is corrected. With her alcohol blood content level three times higher than what is lawful, she could have killed innocent people by causing an accident. Thankfully that didn't happen. Why some people can think they are above the law is disturbing.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Good morning, Fenton.

    Her irrational chutzpah, [blaming the officer for jeopardizing her job because she was caught driving while drunk] which apparently passes for normal behavior in her world of special privilege, is a sign of twisted thinking, IMO, especially for one who has the job of deciding what is considered ethical for everyone else. Perry is right to withhold funds until this problem is corrected. With her alcohol blood content level three times higher than what is lawful, she could have killed innocent people by causing an accident. Thankfully that didn't happen. Why some people can think they are above the law is disturbing.
    Good Morning Polgara...

    Even Democrats are calling BS on this indictment.

    David Axelrod of all people is calling this indictment sketchy.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Just out of curiosity, for those who feel it's illegal for a Governor to use the powers of his office to, for lack of a better term, coerce another person to do something.

    1. Would it be equally illegal for a district attorney or special prosecutor to use the powers of his/her office to coerce a Governor to not exercise one of the powers of his office? Would it be legal for a district attorney or special prosecutor to threaten a Governor with a corruption investigation if he vetoed funding to the office of said district attorney or special prosecutor?

    2. On a more common front, would it be equally illegal for a district attorney or special prosecutor to use the powers of his/her office to coerce a charged defendant into pleading out on a lesser charge under threat of having the charges increased and fully prosecuted should the defendant not plead guilty to the lesser charge?

    The gist of the questions, as laid out above, is it proper for a holder of a public office to use the constitutional powers of that office in order to affect public/government policy deemed to be beneficial to the government? I've seen no allegation that Perry did what he did for personal gain - he acted on a belief that the district attorney was damaged goods and needed to be replaced in order to maintain the integrity of the district attorney's office - that's a public policy initiative, not a personal benefit initiative. How, then, is using the powers vested in your elected position to affect government action a form of corruption?
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Good thing you live in Canada then, isn't it?
    For infinite reasons, it's good to be born and live in Canada. Totally irrelevant to the point made, however.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

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