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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    When Raven first made this statement, I asked him if spinal surgery is "non-medical." I may have missed his answer. http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1063648567
    You Raven's answer but you didn't miss much as Raven is just spewing crap. Let's run through the posts so we don't get things wrong.
    First accusation was that Perry was:
    Quote Originally Posted by Raven1 View Post
    You didn't watch the 2008 Republican presidential primary debates, did you? Rick Perry himself admitted to being hopped up on pills. Should someone of higher power have used their position to force Perry out of the Texas Governor's office?
    Second post:
    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Hopped up on pills? You mean that he was taking non-prescription meds for a non-medical reason? I asked because this is what your choice of phrase suggests.
    Quote Originally Posted by Raven1 View Post
    No, he was taking prescription meds (not aspirin) for a non-medical reason, at least according to him. Look up the facts for yourself if you don't like the implications. What was the third branch of government that he will shut down? I forgot. "Oops!" said presidential candidate Rick Perry.
    Third post:
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    So spinal surgery is non-medical? I did not know this.
    Quote Originally Posted by Raven1 View Post
    Rick Perry has a spine? I did not know this.
    So the Raven's first post was not only 4 years too early it was a lie. This is followed up Raven saying he took prescription drugs for a non-medical condition. Another lie. The last post was hyperbole rather than admit to the first two lies. In my book a person that lies really has no validity.

    As I said before, I have no dog in this fight. I could really care less if Perry got hit by a bus. I don't like people that try to insert lies into a debate. It ruins their validity.
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    No, he wouldn't.
    Bs.
    There are those implying it was done to stop, or because of, the investigations.
    There is no evidence of that, and he was not charged with that.
    If it was about the investigations he would have threatened a veto over that.
    Instead it was because of her lack of integrity while she heads up such an office.


    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Too many people are blindly using "executive privilege" to defend Gov. Perry's actions here without asking the simple question as to why did he choose now, this slip-up by the DA, to take the bold action he has taken if he could have exercised his executive powers long ago. Was it "the straw that broke the camel's back" ...she violated the public trust once too often? Was it ineptitude of the DA's office or this particular investigative unit? Or was there something more the public isn't aware of?
    This is you wanting to read way too much into what he did.
    Especially as the charges do not even suggest that is a/the reason why.


    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I just think people should be looking beyond the fact that this DA embarrassed herself and Gov. Perry's just trying to clean up the public image of the office she holds. I think there's more than meets the eye here.
    Like I said, choosing to read way too much into it.
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Can you explain why you think Jerry Brown is doing a bad job for California? Be specific, because - heck - many Republicans are even pretty ok with him.
    Enron? Oh wait, they figured out that that wasn't Jerry Brown's fault after all, but in the mean time, I hope you enjoyed Ahhnold.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    I guess you didn't understand the "elsewhere openly" comment.
    You could have very well asked "elsewhere" in a relevant topic while quoting what you did if you were concerned about taking it off topic or hijacking.
    No, I missed the "elsewhere" reference. I don't use the Basement, so it didn't occur to me to post there. But thanks for eluding to it as a reminder that this conversation could have taken place there. Of course, it would have been helpful if you would have just recommended that as an option. Just saying...

    As to the rest of your post, thanks. I wasn't asking to cause trouble. I was just curious as to why you labeled him as such. You've explained yourself and supported your position and that's all I wanted to know.
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by NonoBadDog View Post
    You Raven's answer but you didn't miss much as Raven is just spewing crap. Let's run through the posts so we don't get things wrong.
    First accusation was that Perry was:


    Second post:




    Third post:



    So the Raven's first post was not only 4 years too early it was a lie. This is followed up Raven saying he took prescription drugs for a non-medical condition. Another lie. The last post was hyperbole rather than admit to the first two lies. In my book a person that lies really has no validity.

    As I said before, I have no dog in this fight. I could really care less if Perry got hit by a bus. I don't like people that try to insert lies into a debate. It ruins their validity.
    I thought you said you have no dog in this fight, and here you are trying to disprove my posts. I admit and admitted to my minor misstatement regarding 2008 vs. 2012. Face the facts, my friend. Rick Perry was hopped up on drugs while running for POTUS, something he openly admitted to. If you don't like that fact, perhaps you shouldn't overtly defend him (while trying to act unbiased). It ruins your validity.

    And them's the facts. Did you want to say something more?

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    No, I missed the "elsewhere" reference. I don't use the Basement, so it didn't occur to me to post there. But thanks for eluding to it as a reminder that this conversation could have taken place there. Of course, it would have been helpful if you would have just recommended that as an option. Just saying...
    I stated in a relevant topic. Which is not the basement. You would have had no participation from me had you taken it there.


    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    As to the rest of your post, thanks. I wasn't asking to cause trouble. I was just curious as to why you labeled him as such. You've explained yourself and supported your position and that's all I wanted to know.
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Raven1 View Post
    I thought you said you have no dog in this fight, and here you are trying to disprove my posts. I admit and admitted to my minor misstatement regarding 2008 vs. 2012. Face the facts, my friend. Rick Perry was hopped up on drugs while running for POTUS, something he openly admitted to. If you don't like that fact, perhaps you shouldn't overtly defend him (while trying to act unbiased). It ruins your validity.

    And them's the facts. Did you want to say something more?
    You said he was hopped up on pills for a non medical reason. You were either wrong or you knew the truth and lied. You were the one that said "look it up". Nota-bene took you up on it and you were wrong or lying. You presented it as fact so I am going to assume that you were creating a non-truth. I care more about the truth than I do about Perry. I don't give a damn about Perry. I do care about the truth. To pear down what you said to cover up that you were lying is disingenuous.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    That's at least the second time you've hinted that people you don't care for should be in jail...
    Is that how you go through life? People you don't like should not be free? What a miserable way to approach disagreement.



    I'm not the guy who indicted him.

    Talk to the prosecutor in Texas who's taking this case to trial.

    Perry brought this on himself with his tactics.




    The Texas GOP is facing a huge problem in the not-distant future with massive demographic change.

    In 20-years Texas could be a blue state.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Raven1 View Post
    Enron? Oh wait, they figured out that that wasn't Jerry Brown's fault after all, but in the mean time, I hope you enjoyed Ahhnold.
    Jerry Brown is a vast improvement over the governator.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by NonoBadDog View Post
    You said he was hopped up on pills for a non medical reason. You were either wrong or you knew the truth and lied. You were the one that said "look it up". Nota-bene took you up on it and you were wrong or lying. You presented it as fact so I am going to assume that you were creating a non-truth. I care more about the truth than I do about Perry. I don't give a damn about Perry. I do care about the truth. To pear down what you said to cover up that you were lying is disingenuous.
    Look, either you "conservatives" care about facts or you don't. Which is it? Do you really think Rick Perry suffered spinal surgery, or do you know for a fact that Rick Perry has a spine?

    Truth be told, you conservatives only want facts that sway in your direction, thus making it impossible for people to get through to you. But I'll be danged if you can't do research and look up facts. You proved to us all (just now) that you have that ability to do so and choose not to when it so benefits you. And here we thought you were just stupid. It's not that you can't look up facts, it's that you refuse to. The very definition of bias.

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