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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

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    Obama wasn't just responsible for the U.S. recession that started over a year before he took office, and by the time he was inaugurated had the U.S. losing several hundred thousand jobs per MONTH, you can blame him for the WORLDWIDE debt bubble, housing bubble, financial collapse and inevitable deep recessions that follow debt bubbles. Can't believe you can't see that. Look, if McCain had been elected with his trusty sidekick, Sarah Palin, we'd have avoided all that. Thanks Obama!
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What exactly is illegal about the Governor of a state vetoing any bill for any reason?


    Everyone who wonders what it was about Perry using his veto caused a grand jury to indict him:
    Here's the indictment where they make their case that what was done was illegal.


    http://ftpcontent3.worldnow.com/ktbc...ictment%20.pdf
    http://dig.abclocal.go.com/ktrk/PICS...indictment.pdf
    Last edited by Simon W. Moon; 08-17-14 at 12:55 AM.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    If he's an " idiot. " what's that make a guy like Jerry Brown ?

    At least Rick Perry knows how to run a State, how to build a Strong economy and how to keep his tax base from leaving his State.

    Its typical of the left to characterize politicians from the State of Texas as morons.

    But it might help your credibility a bit If you people didn't elect ACTUAL morons.
    Can you explain why you think Jerry Brown is doing a bad job for California? Be specific, because - heck - many Republicans are even pretty ok with him.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    It shows how corrupt politicians are. Oh, that's right ... only Democrats are corrupt, right Fenton?

    And of course, your blatant attempt to smear all liberals is duly noted.
    District Attorney is an impressive position. I am not too familiar with Texas politics or society in general, but I am fairly sure that Texas Dems. are not 'liberal' at least when compared to say Massachusetts Dems. When it comes to high office such as DA, though a person will play for one team or the other, but they may not personally hold the R or D too closely. Ms. Lehmberg is certainly no hippy.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Of course her being drunk had nothing to do with it or even competent. You see in the liberal world it is management that incompetent and lower level employees are never wrong.
    The same "lower level employees" that constitutes TX job numbers? You're to much!
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    perry is using this as a opportunity to appoint some republican to a department that has been outside his control during the entire 14 years he was govenor of texas.

    i see parallels with president roosevelt's court packing plan.
    I remember seeing a toilet breath once. Doesn't mean it was reality. Actually it was a pretty wild night. I think Perry has more reason that what you are thinking.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Yes, she should have resigned. Then a Republican would've been appointed to fill out her term...

    ...she has no shame and put herself and her ambitions ahead of what the people who elected her deserve. How can this woman effectively head a public integrity unit?
    This, folks, is why Gov. Perry went after DA Rosemary Lehmberg. Had nothing to do with upholding the public trust and everything to do with a power grab.
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    It shows how corrupt politicians are. Oh, that's right ... only Democrats are corrupt, right Fenton?

    And of course, your blatant attempt to smear all liberals is duly noted.
    Yeah, you are right that politicians have a higher corruption rate than the general populace. Must be something about power and the corruption that comes with it.

    I suppose that part of it is the frustration that the Biased Lame Stream Media (BLSM) has no problem calling Republicans on it on the front page, but somehow, the editorial decision is to put the Democratic corruption scandals on the back page. Just admit it. This really IS going on.
    Disinformation campaign? The Russian collusion meme pushed by the 'news' media, behaving as a political propaganda organ, hell bent to destroy a legitimately elected president to implement his agenda per the votes of the same electorate. Reference The Big Lie Reference Goebbels

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Everyone who wonders what it was about Perry using his veto caused a grand jury to indict him:
    Here's the indictment where they make their case that what was done was illegal.


    http://ftpcontent3.worldnow.com/ktbc...ictment%20.pdf
    http://dig.abclocal.go.com/ktrk/PICS...indictment.pdf
    Thanks Simon W. Moon for posting the above links.

    This shows court document illustrates what many of us have been saying. It's not that Gov. Perry can't veto any bill he doesn't like. That's surely within his right to do as governor of TX. The problem her is he withheld not merely DA Lehmberg's pay (see video #1 in post #486) but all funding for the organization she ran, and he did this NOT because she or her office weren't doing their job or where shown to be inept or even corrupt. He did it as a power grab. It wasn't his job to seek her resignation. That responsibility rests with the County Commissioner.

    Gov. Perry overstepped his authority here.
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Very well...
    What an absurd comment.
    No right wingers are excusing thug Brown's actions.
    I wanted to ask the following question of you via PM because I didn't want to hijack the thread. But since you insist on public commentary, so be it.
    I guess you didn't understand the "elsewhere openly" comment.
    You could have very well asked "elsewhere" in a relevant topic while quoting what you did if you were concerned about taking it off topic or hijacking.


    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I noticed your post above from earlier in this thread and was curious as to why you think the kid was a thug?
    What evidence do you have that the kid was a trouble maker and a low life? Are you basing your opinion of him strictly from reports that he robbed a store prior to getting shot? Or do you know more about this kids social and/or criminal life than anyone else within this forum?

    [...]

    So, I'm asking what evidence do you have to conclude that Michael Brown was a trouble maker and a low life...thug?
    Based on your comments here and elsewhere, you obviously do not know what the evidence is. Which would also show that you have not followed the progression of my comments as they revealed the evidence as it became known to me.

    I do not jump the gun in calling someone a thug, and I did not do so here.
    Only once the individuals actions are in evidence does it then permit me to use the term.


    But you also include "trouble maker" and "low-life" and I have no clue why.
    You are apparently thinking something was said that wasn't.
    I am more than sure that a thug may, or may not be, someone who is known as a trouble maker, just as I am sure a thug may, or may not be, a low-life.
    But I surely didn't use the terms.

    But in this case Brown apparently made trouble. Or do you doubt that?
    Maybe it is just your own personal definition of what a thug is?


    The person who robbed the store was confirmed as Brown.
    So ... Thug.

    And besides that, it was released that Brown had tried to take the Officers gun
    We also know that a struggle ensued between Brown and the Officer while the Officer was in the car, and also reported was that the gun was fired while in the car.

    And then.
    Police Chief Tom Jackson.
    Jackson said Wilson suffered facial injuries in his struggle with Brown that required hospitalization
    Ferguson cop Darren Wilson didn
    So ... Thug.



    And then there was the following.
    An eyewitness in the background saying that Brown was all over the Officer's truck, and later was moving toward the officer while the Officer was shooting. This combined with what came before... Thug.

    Which does not coincide with his cohorts account (which sounded contrived anyways) of having his hands in the air and an execution style murder.


    Quote Originally Posted by The Conservative Treehouse

    @6:28/6:29 of video

    #1 How’d he get from there to there?

    #2 Because he ran, the police was still in the truck – cause he was like over the truck

    {crosstalk}

    #2 But him and the police was both in the truck, then he ran – the police got out and ran after him

    {crosstalk}

    #2 Then the next thing I know he doubled back toward him cus - the police had his gun drawn already on him –

    #1. Oh, the police got his gun

    #2 The police kept dumpin on him, and I’m thinking the police kept missing – he like – be like – but he kept coming toward him

    {crosstalk}

    #2 Police fired shots – the next thing I know – the police was missing

    #1 The Police?

    #2 The Police shot him

    #1 Police?

    #2 The next thing I know … I’m thinking … the dude started running … (garbled something about “he took it from him”)

    The “JJ Witness Video” – Eye Witness Audio of Mike Brown Shooting States: “Brown Doubled Back Toward POlice”… | The Last Refuge
    So ... Thug.



    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I'm asking because this "thug" label always seems to come up when it's a Black male who gets in trouble with the law, but rarely, if ever, when it's a White male.
    Your racial aspect is irrelevant.
    What something appears to be to you, and what it actually is, is likely two different things.

    From my perspective, and how I view them, each case is separate regardless of race.



    But then there is what is noticed from the other side ...
    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    This is what gets me about these bleeding hearts... They act as if this POlice officer went out of his way to shoot some black kid that day? Like he was planning on it, that nothing would stop him from getting him some bad arse looking black kid. They convince themselves that this could be the only thing that happened, and that the story of the blacks at the scene would be wholesome testimonies to the integrity of the loving son that got shot down in the street. It boggles my mind how incredibly gullible people are. It's like they've never been to the hood or seen ghetto culture up close, and to think that wearing your pants down to your knees, dreads and Tat's up the neck, and unable to form a coherent sentence in English would remind us all that it's really nothing to be concerned or evaluated, no, we only need to condemn the cop that undergoes periodic psychological testing, intense training, and situational awareness because he's the evil PIGS..

    Jesus Christ almighty.. Granted, no rush to condemn the kid, but hell, utilizing a modicum of common sense one cannot possibly rush to condemn the cop either, if anything, this would be the last person to blame.
    Maybe you should be addressing the why of what is pointed out here.
    Because that is what happens far more than anything else.
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