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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Ethics violation? Again, show me the law in TX that doesn't allow a Governor to veto legislation regardless of the so called ethics? The Legislature could overturn that veto and would if it was ethics related.

    Please don't go there comparing this to Obama changing Congressional Law and executive outreach. Absolutely amazing how little you seem to know about vetoes and the threat of veto. If Perry vetoed the bill what was to prevent the legislature from overriding it? Checks and balances is another subject you don't understand.
    Does the Texas legislature lean Republican? Is so, you know very well why your state representatives will never overturn Perry's veto. But of course, yourself and other Republicans would fall back on "following the rules" knowing full well the rules don't apply when your party is the majority power.

    Of course, you expect folks to believe that all the Texas State Legislature has to do if go by the book and everything will be okay. But that can be a problem if the Republican majority has decided to stand by their man and throw the book out the window.
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Actually, Perry is accused of violating criminal law. A felony, to be precise
    In that case, he might be in trouble.

    EDIT: Upon further review...

    Referring to your post #320, if I understand Sect. 36.03, subparagraph (c), correctly, the Texas legislature wrote themselves an escape clause - an "exception" - into their state's coercion law.
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    There is no ethics violation as the Governor of the state can veto any law he doesn't want to sign. The real issue is she should have gone with it, let him veto the legislation, and then make an issue out of it in the court of public opinion forcing the legislature to act.
    OMG! The man who screams "legislative process" in one post is now spewing political tactics as a measure to force his state's legislature to act and do its job.

    We're done here, man.
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    That might be a good job for Perry to look into if he doesn't get a long prison sentence.

    Just curious, why do you dislike Perry ?

    Is it because he's a Republican ?

    Because he's had twisted Democrats looking for something to nail him on for years now, and THIS BS charge is the best they can do.

    So it's fair to say he's not corrupt, at least not on the level of Politicians like Andrew Cuomo or Barrak Obama, or Hillary Clinton.

    He's also a qualified leader and has a long record of accomplishments to run on IF he ever decided to run for President.

    Texas's economy is booming and thanks to his leadership millions of Americans from bankrupt States like California now have a second chance at supporting themselves and their families.

    So why do you dislike him ?

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    In that case, he might be in trouble.
    Accusations dont mean s***, especially when they're being leveled by a corrupt Liberal DA with a personal axe to grind.

    Perry was indicted for saying he would Veto something before he did it.

    That's what this boils down to.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    You've said this previously, but never backed it up. What, exactly, is Governor Perry's personal, self-interest in the matter? Governor Perry is/was not running for reelection and he could not personally benefit from the resignation of the prosecutor at issue, so what is his self-interest? Wanting people to be honorable isn't self-interest.
    I can't speak to why Gov. Perry wanted Mrs. Lehmberg gone. All I can tell you is based on what's been reported, he threatened to use his veto power to force her to resign ahead of actually putting that power in effect.
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    The indictment is Political gamesmanship.

    He said he would do something that he had the legal authority to do before he did it.

    Thats the basis of the indictment.

    Good luck with that. Personally I dont think he has anything to worry about.
    Haven't we heard from Obama in speeches that if the house passes something or other he will veto it?

    Is that illegal for him to say that, or just do it afterwards?

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Does the Texas legislature lean Republican? Is so, you know very well why your state representatives will never overturn Perry's veto. But of course, yourself and other Republicans would fall back on "following the rules" knowing full well the rules don't apply when your party is the majority power.

    Of course, you expect folks to believe that all the Texas State Legislature has to do if go by the book and everything will be okay. But that can be a problem if the Republican majority has decided to stand by their man and throw the book out the window.
    Yes, but what does that matter? You continue to ignore the point, Governors have the right to veto legislation for political reasons, that isn't a violation of the law and the fact remains it doesn't matter if you believe it is an ethical violation, the law gives them that right.

    You seem to have so little faith in people. why is that? They elected Obama, didn't they and isn't that what you wanted? A threat of a veto for political reasons doesn't constitute a violation of the law.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    OMG! The man who screams "legislative process" in one post is now spewing political tactics as a measure to force his state's legislature to act and do its job.

    We're done here, man.
    I have no idea what you are talking about as you continue to ignore the basic point, ANY GOVERNOR HAS THE RIGHT TO VETO LEGISLATION FOR ANY REASON.............!!!!!

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I have no idea what you are talking about as you continue to ignore the basic point, ANY GOVERNOR HAS THE RIGHT TO VETO LEGISLATION FOR ANY REASON.............!!!!!
    Governors can veto bills because someone paid them to veto a bill?
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