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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    By "illegal" you mean criminal, no. But we're not talking criminal actions here, now are we? We're talking violating ethics rules which when looking at things from the primus of character, honor and integrity for someone holding the highest office in the land - or in this case, the Great State of Texas - I'd think you kind folks would want someone sitting in your state's big chair who was of the highest moral fiber, not someone who would use shady politics to get what he wants or abuse his Executive Power. I mean, my God...isn't this the very claim you guys wage against the President of the United States? Executive overreach?
    Ethics violation? Again, show me the law in TX that doesn't allow a Governor to veto legislation regardless of the so called ethics? The Legislature could overturn that veto and would if it was ethics related.

    Please don't go there comparing this to Obama changing Congressional Law and executive outreach. Absolutely amazing how little you seem to know about vetoes and the threat of veto. If Perry vetoed the bill what was to prevent the legislature from overriding it? Checks and balances is another subject you don't understand.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

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    Wow, your ignorance of the veto power is staggering and swayed by your political ideology
    And this is the very reason I was so hesitant to include you back into my conversations...you just aren't capable of holding an honest debate without stooping to personal attacks.

    My knowledge of political process as they apply to Texas law isn't the issue. Gov. Perry's violation of ethics and abusing his Executive Power is. Try to stay on point or back on ignore you go.
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    He did it for his own self interest and that's wrong.
    You've said this previously, but never backed it up. What, exactly, is Governor Perry's personal, self-interest in the matter? Governor Perry is/was not running for reelection and he could not personally benefit from the resignation of the prosecutor at issue, so what is his self-interest? Wanting people to be honorable isn't self-interest.
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Thank you for posting that now tell us what leftwing site you got that from and how a veto which can be overturned is related to this law? Still waiting for you to tell me what Republicans have done to you or your family that has created this obvious hatred?

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I think there's an opening for President of Egypt - they operate under similar principles of governance.



    That might be a good job for Perry to look into if he doesn't get a long prison sentence.

    The weather there is similar to that in southern Texas.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    And this is the very reason I was so hesitant to include you back into my conversations...you just aren't capable of holding an honest debate without stooping to personal attacks.

    My knowledge of political process as they apply to Texas law isn't the issue. Gov. Perry's violation of ethics and abusing his Executive Power is. Try to stay on point or back on ignore you go.
    There is no ethics violation as the Governor of the state can veto any law he doesn't want to sign. The real issue is she should have gone with it, let him veto the legislation, and then make an issue out of it in the court of public opinion forcing the legislature to act.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    That might be a good job for Perry to look into if he doesn't get a long prison sentence.
    No, personal responsibility isn't understood either in Europe or Egypt.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    That might be a good job for Perry to look into if he doesn't get a long prison sentence.
    Touche!
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    And this is the very reason I was so hesitant to include you back into my conversations...you just aren't capable of holding an honest debate without stooping to personal attacks.

    My knowledge of political process as they apply to Texas law isn't the issue. Gov. Perry's violation of ethics and abusing his Executive Power is. Try to stay on point or back on ignore you go.
    Actually, Perry is accused of violating criminal law. A felony, to be precise
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    A simple reading of the article attached to the OP shows the totality of the politicization of this issue.

    1. The prosecutor who struck the grand jury is a Democrat.

    2. The prosecutor who struck the grand jury was charged and plead guilty to a DUI in 2013 at which time Perry and others called for her resignation.


    3. The grand jury was struck in highly Democrat Austin, even though Texas is overwhelmingly Republican.

    It's no wonder Governor Perry sought to rein in this run-away abuser of her office. Would be nice to see a prosecutor in another jurisdiction of Texas investigate this Democrat prosecutor's office and her abuse of power.

    To the bolded, I'll just assume you are ill-informed.

    I'd hardly say Michael McCrum is a Democrat and I'll bet it is news to him that he was charged and plead guilty to a DUI charge in 2013.

    Michael McCrum was nominated by Texas two senators, Kay Bailey Hutchison and John Cornyn for U.S. Attorney


    Michael McCrum, Special Prosecutor of Texas's Rick Perry, and the Road Not Taken | Main Justice
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