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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    You've never seen a President threaten a veto of legislation in order to get Congress to act on an issue of personal interest to the President, such as approving the appointment of a judicial nominee as an example? Why would threatening the veto of legislation to effect an appointment be any different than vetoing legislation to effect a resignation?
    There's a difference between threatening to use one's veto power to enact legislation for the benefit of the whole (i.e., nation or state) versus doing so for one's on personal vendetta. That seems to be the case here with Gov. Perry and if it's proven to be the case (which the evidence is surely pointing in that direction), then he should be held accountable for it.
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Conservative,

    If Gov. Perry really wanted her gone, why didn't he just fire her? That's also within his power to do as TX Governor, right? So, why didn't he just do it if he believed the office/department she managed was so inept or that this women violated the trust given her by the people who elected her or himself for hiring her? Why go through this veto process to get her out?

    You see, you can argue "it was within his right to use his veto power" all you want, but it's very clear the man overstepped his bounds here. The sad thing is yourself and others who are hardcore Conservatives simply refuse to see issues like this one in a rational manner.

    (Personal Note: I'm not going to do your homework for you. You live in the great state of Texas. If you want to know what your state's Constitution says on the matter concerning use of the veto by its Governor or its legislature or its laws on ethics violations for that matter, look them up!)
    I am going to ask you again, why does it matter that Perry threatened a veto, a veto that can be overturned? This is personal and nothing more. You have no problem destroying the individual because of the liberal ideology

    Texas Politics - The Executive Branch

    Have no idea where you get your information but there is no reason required for a veto. Suggest you do your own homework

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    There's a difference between threatening to use one's veto power to enact legislation for the benefit of the whole (i.e., nation or state) versus doing so for one's on personal vendetta. That seems to be the case here with Gov. Perry and if it's proven to be the case (which the evidence is surely pointing in that direction), then he should be held accountable for it.
    There may be a difference but there is nothing illegal about either.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    I don't give a damn about the law, I'd just like to see Perry convicted and locked up.

    I'll let you worry about the law 24/7, I have better things to do with my time.
    I think there's an opening for President of Egypt - they operate under similar principles of governance.
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I recommend the xylophone for Perry
    If he's indicted, there could be a new band in the making!

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    They went after DeLay...he's free. They went after Kay Baily...no conviction, they won't get one for Perry either.

    Ronnie Earle was a POS and so is Lehmberg. That whole unit needs to be squashed. It's nothing but a partisan political attack machine disguised using the moron Travis county Leftist jury pool as a watchdog.
    I'm sure that's how a lot of people see this situation - as nothing more than "politics as usual" - and I won't argue that some measure of "gotcha/one-upsman politics" isn't at play here. However, I don't think folks who look at this issue rationally can honestly say that Gov. Perry, in threatening to use his veto power to force Mrs. Lehmberg to resign using the power of purse as it were to pressure her to leave and then carrying out that veto threat, didn't abuse his power as Chief Executive. That's the part you guys continue to purposely overlook. He didn't do this in the best interest of the State of TX. He did it for his own self interest and that's wrong. There's really no other way folks can this as being justified.
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I'm sure that's how a lot of people see this situation - as nothing more than "politics as usual" - and I won't argue that some measure of "gotcha/one-upsman politics" isn't at play here. However, I don't think folks who look at this issue rationally can honestly say that Gov. Perry, in threatening to use his veto power to force Mrs. Lehmberg to resign using the power of purse as it were to pressure her to leave and then carrying out that veto threat, didn't abuse his power as Chief Executive. That's the part you guys continue to purposely overlook. He didn't do this in the best interest of the State of TX. He did it for his own self interest and that's wrong. There's really no other way folks can this as being justified.
    Wow, your ignorance of the veto power is staggering and swayed by your political ideology

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    There may be a difference but there is nothing illegal about either.
    By "illegal" you mean criminal, no. But we're not talking criminal actions here, now are we? We're talking violating ethics rules which when looking at things from the primus of character, honor and integrity for someone holding the highest office in the land - or in this case, the Great State of Texas - I'd think you kind folks would want someone sitting in your state's big chair who was of the highest moral fiber, not someone who would use shady politics to get what he wants or abuse his Executive Power. I mean, my God...isn't this the very claim you guys wage against the President of the United States? Executive overreach?
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    There's a difference between threatening to use one's veto power to enact legislation for the benefit of the whole (i.e., nation or state) versus doing so for one's on personal vendetta. That seems to be the case here with Gov. Perry and if it's proven to be the case (which the evidence is surely pointing in that direction), then he should be held accountable for it.
    I'd argue that a chief prosecutor who has been charged and plead guilty to DUI, who has been seen in jailhouse video acting outrageously and disrespectfully with police while being booked, should do the honorable thing and resign and if she chooses run for the office again. Governor Perry was trying to get her to do the honorable thing by resigning, for the betterment of the State, not for personal reasons, and he did everything in his power to try to facilitate that outcome. The only one on a personal vendetta here is the prosecutor who went after the man who's trying to get her to do the honorable thing and embarrassing her in the process.
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Your opinion noted, please show me the law that says what Perry did was illegal? Threatening a veto, a veto that can be overturned by the legislature isn't a violation of the law nor should it be. Obama does it all the time, is that illegal?
    Texas Penal Code - Section 36.03. Coercion Of Public Servant Or Voter - Texas Attorney Resources - Texas Laws

    TEX PE. CODE ANN. 39.02 : Texas Statutes - Section 39.02: ABUSE OF OFFICIAL CAPACITY
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