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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Again, I am waiting for you to show me the law that a Governor has to have a reason to veto the bill?
    Do you understand how the Legislature works?



    I understand if Governor Perry is convicted in court he has a serious problem. His political power won't help him there.

    Wait and see.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Tom Delay is one slimy critter that I could never stand.

    If he was under the jail right now I'd be a lot happier.

    How very "centrist" of you....
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Tom Delay is one slimy critter that I could never stand.

    If he was under the jail right now I'd be a lot happier.
    So you confirm your support for using the American judicial system to exact revenge on political enemies?
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prosecutors' funds



    All I can say is HOLY CRAP. This is going to be a political crapstorm.

    Article is here.
    Proving the old adage that even a mediocre DA could get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich. Indictment is not a guilty verdict, it's not even the result of a trial. Just one DA holding a bunch of unpaid folks captive, sometimes for months, until they acquiesce and finally say, yes, you can take it to court.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    To Polgara: Nevertheless, trying to compare Blagojevich to Perry is more than a little silly.
    Oh, I wasn't comparing the two - there is no valid comparison, IMO. I was answering Sangha's question regarding a governor's power to appoint people to various political positions. The difference is that Texas is Red, and Illinois is blue, and everyone can see which is the better-run state, fiscally speaking. Perry is the longest serving Governor in Texas history, and the voters liked his work enough to keep him in that position. Three of my children and their families live there, and they love it! Why do you think businesses fleeing California and other blue states move to Texas? It's because it's a business-friendly state, among other things, which puts them on some kind of Dem hate list, it appears. Most of the refugees from Katrina that were bused to Texas like it better, and will not move back to Louisiana. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

    Greetings, nota bene.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Conservative,

    I want you to read the opening paragraph from the article I linked to again quoted below then let's discuss:



    Not the same as threatening a presidential veto if Congress puts forward a bill the President disagrees with. I'm sure state legislatures have provisions within their Constitutions to overturn a Governor's veto much as Congress has the power to overturn a President's veto, but whenever a President uses his veto threat it's to force Congress to put forward a bill more to his liking, not to force a member of Congress or some member from a department ushered in by laws of Congress. That's the difference here.



    Gov. Perry clearly abused his power as Chief Executive simply because he wanted this woman gone, not because he believed that the work she was doing or that of her department was faulty.
    So what? I see nothing here that requires any Governor to have a reason for a veto. Trying to get rid of a political hack if illegal would put a lot of politicians in jail. Threatening a veto is within the rights of any governor. How exactly did Perry abuse his power? Simply wanting a person gone and exercising his veto power are two different issue and even though you and others connect the two it is within the power of any Governor to exercise a veto then the legislature to decide if that veto is valid.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Not the same as threatening a presidential veto if Congress puts forward a bill the President disagrees with. I'm sure state legislatures have provisions within their Constitutions to overturn a Governor's veto much as Congress has the power to overturn a President's veto, but whenever a President uses his veto threat it's to force Congress to put forward a bill more to his liking, not to force a member of Congress or some member from a department ushered in by laws of Congress. That's the difference here.

    Gov. Perry clearly abused his power as Chief Executive simply because he wanted this woman gone, not because he believed that the work she was doing or that of her department was faulty.
    You've never seen a President threaten a veto of legislation in order to get Congress to act on an issue of personal interest to the President, such as approving the appointment of a judicial nominee as an example? Why would threatening the veto of legislation to effect an appointment be any different than vetoing legislation to effect a resignation?
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    I understand if Governor Perry is convicted in court he has a serious problem. His political power won't help him there.

    Wait and see.
    So again you have no law supporting you thus the allegation is more important than the reality that Governors don't need a reason to veto any legislation.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

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    So again you have no law supporting you thus the allegation is more important than the reality that Governors don't need a reason to veto any legislation.



    I don't give a damn about the law, I'd just like to see Perry convicted and locked up.

    I'll let you worry about the law 24/7, I have better things to do with my time.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    So you confirm your support for using the American judicial system to exact revenge on political enemies?
    Of course he does....Shrub is a progressive authoritarian regardless of what he chose for his "lean"
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