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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    And why is the reason, publicly stated, an abuse of the law?

    Seems to me, Obama has done nothing but threaten vetoes and executive action if Congress doesn't do what he wants to do politically. I appreciate that the federal government in the US doesn't have an independent judiciary, far from it, but promising a political action and carrying it through is something the electorate should be judging, not a court.
    But all you ever say is that Bush was an angel and Obama's the devil. I never hear your thoughts on Harper.
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    And why is the reason, publicly stated, an abuse of the law?

    Seems to me, Obama has done nothing but threaten vetoes and executive action if Congress doesn't do what he wants to do politically. I appreciate that the federal government in the US doesn't have an independent judiciary, far from it,
    but promising a political action and carrying it through is something the electorate should be judging, not a court.



    True, but this case will be decided in a court of law and Perry's political power will have little effect on the outcome.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    But all you ever say is that Bush was an angel and Obama's the devil. I never hear your thoughts on Harper.
    And it does seem that all you do is try to defend the indefensible. We could easily turn this around and point out how many here believe Bush is the devil and Obama can do no wrong. We know both are inconsistent with reality. Bush is no angel and made mistakes, not as bad as the ones liberals want you to believe and the Obama economic and foreign policy results deserve the scrutiny and the negative comments.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    But all you ever say is that Bush was an angel and Obama's the devil. I never hear your thoughts on Harper.
    And it does seem that all you do is try to defend the indefensible. We could easily turn this around and point out how many here believe Bush is the devil and Obama can do no wrong. We know both are inconsistent with reality. Bush is no angel and made mistakes, not as bad as the ones liberals want you to believe and the Obama economic and foreign policy results deserve the scrutiny and the negative comments.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I do think that this is a "Gotcha!" issue and am going to be very curious to learn how Texans respond to the indictment.
    A simple reading of the article attached to the OP shows the totality of the politicization of this issue.

    1. The prosecutor who struck the grand jury is a Democrat.

    2. The prosecutor who struck the grand jury was charged and plead guilty to a DUI in 2013 at which time Perry and others called for her resignation.

    3. The grand jury was struck in highly Democrat Austin, even though Texas is overwhelmingly Republican.

    It's no wonder Governor Perry sought to rein in this run-away abuser of her office. Would be nice to see a prosecutor in another jurisdiction of Texas investigate this Democrat prosecutor's office and her abuse of power.
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    I'm eager to learn ordinary Texans' opinions on Perry's indictment. Meanwhile, here is what the Republican and Democrat party chairs have said: Capital Tonight: State Party Leaders Respond to Perry Indictment - Time Warner Cable News

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    But all you ever say is that Bush was an angel and Obama's the devil. I never hear your thoughts on Harper.
    Harper is a gift from God, an Arch Angel of the highest order.

    How's that?
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Yes, political prosecutors and charges ruined Tom Delay in Texas and may well ruin Rick Perry as well.

    Remarkable that you'd cheer on the politicization of justice in America. Can't beat em at the ballot box, ruin their reputations in court.



    Tom Delay is one slimy critter that I could never stand.

    If he was under the jail right now I'd be a lot happier.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    True, but this case will be decided in a court of law and Perry's political power will have little effect on the outcome.
    True - and the good citizens of Texas will be saddled with another multi-$million court case that will go nowhere and if, as with Delay, a conviction is handed down, the appeals court will overturn and vacate that decision at a later date. But Mr. Perry's name will be dragged through the mud for a few years and the State will be out for the legal costs of both the State and Perry.

    Since it's entirely political, how about the political parties in the State, both Democrat and Republican, fund the legal costs and take the State off the hook? You think the Texas Democrat party would roll the dice if they had to pay for it?
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Your opinion noted, please show me the law that says what Perry did was illegal? Threatening a veto, a veto that can be overturned by the legislature isn't a violation of the law nor should it be. Obama does it all the time, is that illegal?
    Conservative,

    I want you to read the opening paragraph from the article I linked to again quoted below then let's discuss:

    Gov. Rick Perry continued to work to get Travis County DA Rosemary Lehmberg to resign even after following through on the threat to veto money for the public integrity unit. The Tribune's Terri Langford reported Tuesday night — citing unnamed sources — that Perry through emissaries offered to restore the money if Lehmberg would leave:
    Not the same as threatening a presidential veto if Congress puts forward a bill the President disagrees with. I'm sure state legislatures have provisions within their Constitutions to overturn a Governor's veto much as Congress has the power to overturn a President's veto, but whenever a President uses his veto threat it's to force Congress to put forward a bill more to his liking, not to force a member of Congress or some member from a department ushered in by laws of Congress. That's the difference here.

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Rosemary Lehmberg and her office have been abusing their power for a very long time.
    Gov. Perry clearly abused his power as Chief Executive simply because he wanted this woman gone, not because he believed that the work she was doing or that of her department was faulty.
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