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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    This case is idiosyncratic at least because it involves Texas laws. I don't think that we need to presume that the precedent will apply to other states.
    But Ianal.

    But, istm, the charge is that this is different from standard veto dramas and idiosyncratic in other ways .
    If Perry is convicted it will be because there was something about this case which makes it different from standard issue veto actions.
    At least that's my ignorant opinion.

    If Perry is not convicted, then maybe this veto drama is different than standard veto dramas without being illegal or it could be the same as run of the mill veto dramas.
    Won't be able to tell from that alone.

    But if this affair has some characteristics or attributes which distinguish it from "regular" vetoes, then the applicability of the precedent should be limited by those same distinguishing characteristics. Again, Ianal.


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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Blago from my state has an open bed in his cell out in Colorado.
    Ryan before him just got out.
    And don't think for one moment they actually got all the Illinois crooks either .
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    If he's convicted of the crimes that he has been indicted for it's very possible that he'll do some serious jail time.

    He'd look good in a prison jump-suit with stripes on it. I'd like to see that picture.




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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Blago from my state has an open bed in his cell out in Colorado.
    Ryan before him just got out.
    And don't think for one moment they actually got all the Illinois crooks either
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    I totally support locking up all of the crooks. on the left and the right.

    If the court convicts them, put them behind bars.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    No, the Goal post were moved long before I posted in this thread.

    Perry's legal authority to Veto spending suddenly morphed into a grand conspiracy to shut down Political investigations.

    Its a BS, and its the best the Liberals can do.

    Perry's popular in Texas, and through his leadership our economy has grown and so has our surplus.

    This is only going to piss off and motivate the majority of Conservative voters in a already Red State.
    Actually, Perry is not as popular as you believe. He won the governorship with only 34% of the vote. The other choices for gov were Democrat Chris Bell, Independent Kinky Friedman, the Raging Granny, whose name I forget, and a couple others who got a few votes. I voted for Friedman, a fellow "Jewboy". LOL.
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    They were investigating Rick Perry ? For what exactly ? Because the indictment came down AFTER the Travis County DA got busted for DUI. If the issue was simply shutting down the DA who's responsible for investigating corrupt lawmakers ( like Andrew Cuomo did ) he would have veoted their spending long ago.
    The CPRIT. The Cancer Prevention and Research Institute of Texas.

    The funding that Rick Perry vetoed was going to the Travis County DA's Public Integrity Unit, which at the time was going after Rick Perry's appointees on the CPRIT. It's a grant-awarding organization that was created in 2007 per a voter's proposition is supposed to be funding research on cancer, however it had been making grant requests to organizations (skipping scientific and business reviews) tied to politician contributors of Rick Perry, Greg Abbott and David Dewhurst.

    http://www.dallasnews.com/investigat...gn-contributor

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Watching right-wingers lose their mind over this is hilarious. Suddenly everything is SO unfair.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    The CPRIT. The Cancer Prevention and Research Institute of Texas.

    The funding that Rick Perry vetoed was going to the Travis County DA's Public Integrity Unit, which at the time was going after Rick Perry's appointees on the CPRIT. It's a grant-awarding organization that was created in 2007 per a voter's proposition is supposed to be funding research on cancer, however it had been making grant requests to organizations (skipping scientific and business reviews) tied to politician contributors of Rick Perry, Greg Abbott and David Dewhurst.

    http://www.dallasnews.com/investigat...gn-contributor
    And?


    You have no point.
    Had she resigned that office would have had that funding and continued investigating.
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Imagine if a president could veto their own impeachment. How would that not seem ****ed up to you?
    You analogy may be a little stretched as an impeachment is more like a trial than an investigation and Congress isn't an investigative body.
    Also, I think that the investigation is not into Perry but one of Perry's acquaintances.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/16/us...fice.html?_r=0
    At the time of Mr. Perry’s veto last year, prosecutors in the unit had been investigating a state agency called the Cancer Prevention and Research Institute of Texas. The agency — one of Mr. Perry’s signature initiatives — came under scrutiny by state lawmakers after accusations of mismanagement and corruption; a former official there was indicted last year for his handling of an $11 million grant.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    Watching right-wingers lose their mind over this is hilarious. Suddenly everything is SO unfair.
    WTF are you talking about?
    It seems the Dems are salivating at the prospects of a Perry conviction.
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