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Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat [W:613/629]

Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

Want to try again?
No. I got it in one. I provided "any economic number that is better today than the Bush averages including the recession."

imho, we should get back to talking about Perry's problems.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

No. I got it in one. I provided "any economic number that is better today than the Bush averages including the recession."

imho, we should get back to talking about Perry's problems.

That is the problem with people like you, you really don't understand the economy just like you don't understand the Perry situation. Rhetoric is all you are good at, substance, not so much.

Perry has no problems, liberals do
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

That is the problem with people like you, you really don't understand the economy just like you don't understand the Perry situation. Rhetoric is all you are good at, substance, not so much.
Perry has no problems, liberals do

Awww. Diddums.
lol
; )
 
If Perry can win the Republican nomination you are free to vote for him. I believe you and I both know this isn't going to happen. Perhaps before these indictments there was a small percentage of a chance he could have competed. Now his chances are pretty much zilch.

On the contrary. I foresee significant backlash against the democrats for this stunt. Perry may or may not win the nomination but i think it will be because there are better overall candidates. Nit because of partisan loonys in austin
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

Meanwhile, in Texas...

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Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

In my mind bush and obama blur together, at least on economic policy.

I'm glad somebody gets this, because most people are castigating one while defending the other. And as long as that happens, the Democrats and Republicans can keep playing ping pong with our balls.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

Vicariously Vicious

You get a feeling of absolute power yourself if you support this unlimited veto power. Those who claim to be anti-statist always give themselves away. They want a totalitarian private sector and a government that protects it through absolute contempt for the will of the majority.

The veto itself is a check on legislative power, in turn checked by the power to override that power. Separation of powers/checks and balances, I think people get surprised when they learn that the executive branch is actually vested with powers.
 
Because the GOP has had such wonderful Presidential candidates in this century.

And an idiot like Kamikaze Kruz making fun of a real war hero in Sen. Dole .
On the contrary. I foresee significant backlash against the democrats for this stunt. Perry may or may not win the nomination but i think it will be because there are better overall candidates. Nit because of partisan loonys in austin
 
Because the GOP has had such wonderful Presidential candidates in this century.

And an idiot like Kamikaze Kruz making fun of a real war hero in Sen. Dole .

Oh, you want to trade clowns that ran?

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Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

The veto itself is a check on legislative power, in turn checked by the power to override that power. Separation of powers/checks and balances, I think people get surprised when they learn that the executive branch is actually vested with powers.

Actually, in Texas, nobody trusted politicians when they wrote their state Constitution. So the Governorship is relatively weak, and the Congress meets only every other year. Most of the power in Texas is in the hands of the various commissions.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

Actually, in Texas, nobody trusted politicians when they wrote their state Constitution. So the Governorship is relatively weak, and the Congress meets only every other year. Most of the power in Texas is in the hands of the various commissions.

As was intended by our Founders, part time legislators and power in the state and local communities except for National defense. Send Congress home to their Districts and make them face the constituents daily
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

The indictment of Perry won't stand because...

As to Count I
On or about June 14, 2013, in the County of Travis, Texas, James Richard "Rick" Perry, with intent to harm another, to-wit, Rosemary Lehmberg and the Public Integrity Unit of the Travis County District Attorney's Office, intentionally or knowingly misused government property by dealing with such property contrary to an agreement under which defendant held such property or contrary to the oath of office he took as a public servant, such government property being monies having a value of in excess of $200,000 which were approved and authorized by the Legislature of the State of Texas to fund the continued operation of the Public Integrity Unit of the Travis County District Attorney's Office, and which had come into defendant's custody or possession by virtue of the defendant's office as a public servant, namely, Governor of the State of Texas.
The State of Texas v. James Richard "Rick" Perry
http://dig.abclocal.go.com/ktrk/PICS/AUGUST14/Perryindictment.pdf


Perry did not perform acts which comport to the specifics contained in the law.
To wit

Before the governor signs legislation, it is not a law.
Any legislation which provided monies for the continued operation of the Public Integrity Unit is not a law until it is signed off on by the governor.
This legislation was never signed by the governor.
Therefore the legislation never became law.
Funding, monies, contained in bills are not real. Funding does not come into being until the legislation becomes a law.
This legislation never became a law.
Therefore the monies never actually existed.
It is impossible to misuse property which does not exist.
Therefore, not only is there reasonable doubt that Perry is guilty of this charge, it is literally impossible for him to be guilty of this charge.


ftr, I suspect that the specific argument above is hogwash.
But idk.
 
Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prosecutors' funds



All I can say is HOLY CRAP. This is going to be a political crapstorm.

Article is here.

Even Democrats are calling this nonsense....

This was nothing more than an attempt by the FAR LEFT to take the heat off of Leirner and Obamy****s golfing...
 
Even Democrats are calling this nonsense....

This was nothing more than an attempt by the FAR LEFT to take the heat off of Leirner and Obamy****s golfing...

First Texas governor indicted in almost 100 years. Rick Perry is an embarrassment.
 
The indictment is an embarrassment.
 
First Texas governor indicted in almost 100 years. Rick Perry is an embarrassment.
So far as I understand indictments, they only mean "there's enough evidence here of something being wrong that we recommend further investigation/legal proceedings to determine whether something bad actually went down."

That's it.
 
So far as I understand indictments, they only mean "there's enough evidence here of something being wrong that we recommend further investigation/legal proceedings to determine whether something bad actually went down."

That's it.

Yea, that's pretty much it. Perry was indicted, but that doesn't mean he is guilty. Proving guilt is a higher bar to pass over than reasonable suspicion..
 
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