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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by newpublius View Post
    The veto itself is a check on legislative power, in turn checked by the power to override that power. Separation of powers/checks and balances, I think people get surprised when they learn that the executive branch is actually vested with powers.
    Actually, in Texas, nobody trusted politicians when they wrote their state Constitution. So the Governorship is relatively weak, and the Congress meets only every other year. Most of the power in Texas is in the hands of the various commissions.
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Actually, in Texas, nobody trusted politicians when they wrote their state Constitution. So the Governorship is relatively weak, and the Congress meets only every other year. Most of the power in Texas is in the hands of the various commissions.
    As was intended by our Founders, part time legislators and power in the state and local communities except for National defense. Send Congress home to their Districts and make them face the constituents daily

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    The indictment of Perry won't stand because...

    As to Count I
    On or about June 14, 2013, in the County of Travis, Texas, James Richard "Rick" Perry, with intent to harm another, to-wit, Rosemary Lehmberg and the Public Integrity Unit of the Travis County District Attorney's Office, intentionally or knowingly misused government property by dealing with such property contrary to an agreement under which defendant held such property or contrary to the oath of office he took as a public servant, such government property being monies having a value of in excess of $200,000 which were approved and authorized by the Legislature of the State of Texas to fund the continued operation of the Public Integrity Unit of the Travis County District Attorney's Office, and which had come into defendant's custody or possession by virtue of the defendant's office as a public servant, namely, Governor of the State of Texas.
    The State of Texas v. James Richard "Rick" Perry
    http://dig.abclocal.go.com/ktrk/PICS...indictment.pdf

    Perry did not perform acts which comport to the specifics contained in the law.
    To wit

    Before the governor signs legislation, it is not a law.
    Any legislation which provided monies for the continued operation of the Public Integrity Unit is not a law until it is signed off on by the governor.
    This legislation was never signed by the governor.
    Therefore the legislation never became law.
    Funding, monies, contained in bills are not real. Funding does not come into being until the legislation becomes a law.
    This legislation never became a law.
    Therefore the monies never actually existed.
    It is impossible to misuse property which does not exist.
    Therefore, not only is there reasonable doubt that Perry is guilty of this charge, it is literally impossible for him to be guilty of this charge.
    ftr, I suspect that the specific argument above is hogwash.
    But idk.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    I doubt a summary dismissal is going to happen, since there was reasonable suspicion, which is all that is required for an indictment. However, I predict Perry will get a not guilty verdict, since the standard of beyond all reasonable doubt is a much higher bar.
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat [W:613/629]

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prosecutors' funds



    All I can say is HOLY CRAP. This is going to be a political crapstorm.

    Article is here.
    Even Democrats are calling this nonsense....

    This was nothing more than an attempt by the FAR LEFT to take the heat off of Leirner and Obamy****s golfing...

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat [W:613/629]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Even Democrats are calling this nonsense....

    This was nothing more than an attempt by the FAR LEFT to take the heat off of Leirner and Obamy****s golfing...
    First Texas governor indicted in almost 100 years. Rick Perry is an embarrassment.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat [W:613/629]

    The indictment is an embarrassment.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat [W:613/629]

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    First Texas governor indicted in almost 100 years. Rick Perry is an embarrassment.
    So far as I understand indictments, they only mean "there's enough evidence here of something being wrong that we recommend further investigation/legal proceedings to determine whether something bad actually went down."

    That's it.
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat [W:613/629]

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    So far as I understand indictments, they only mean "there's enough evidence here of something being wrong that we recommend further investigation/legal proceedings to determine whether something bad actually went down."

    That's it.
    Yea, that's pretty much it. Perry was indicted, but that doesn't mean he is guilty. Proving guilt is a higher bar to pass over than reasonable suspicion..
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