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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose


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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    In any state, an indictment is given if there is probable cause. Since there was probable cause, Perry was indicted. However, during trial, the bar is higher for conviction, which may or may not happen, depending on the evidence that will be presented. Guilt beyond a reasonable doubt is a much higher bar than probable cause.
    The fix was always in, as expected from a ****hole like Travis Co....

    "More troubling, however, is the fact that Chalmers attended, photographed, and commented on an event with Democratic state Sen. Kirk Watson while grand jury proceedings were ongoing.

    Watson was a witness in front of the grand jury. On June 27, 2014, Chalmers shared a photo of the Watson event on a community Facebook page she started called Developer’s Dungeon. “Senator Kirk Watson telling the story of the Wendy Davis fillibuster (sic),” she wrote in a comment accompanying the picture. …

    Numerous posts from both of Chalmers’ Facebook pages — her personal page, which she shares with her husband, Davis [David, apparently, from the screen caps -- Ed], and her “Developer’s Dungeon” page — make clear that she is a partisan Democratic activist, and that she was an active participant in the Texas Democratic Party’s state convention in June while grand jury proceedings were ongoing.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The ... ongoing.
    We went over this already.

    Three points.

    1)
    If you actually read what is written, you will notice that there is not even one single allegation of wrongdoing.
    Not one.
    No one is even saying that something untoward happened.

    2)
    After that, we could also add the moot point that there's zero evidence presented that something inappropriate happened [ to support the allegation which has not been made ].

    3)
    There is evidence that Chalmers took emotion out of it and looked at the facts.
    The article cited in your article, the one from the Houston Chronicle, quotes Chalmers, "several" other members of the GJ saying that they made a good faith effort to be impartial about the thing.
    That is not very much evidence, their sayso I suppose.
    However, it stacks up against zero evidence to the contrary.
    More than zero is more than zero no matter how infinitesimal it is


    So, be as "concerned" as you like, or w/e tf you'd like to call it, but as of yet, there's nothing and no one actually saying that there's been any impropriety.
    Last edited by Simon W. Moon; 08-22-14 at 07:32 PM.
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    We went over this already.

    Three points.

    1)
    If you actually read what is written, you will notice that there is not even one single allegation of wrongdoing.
    Not one.
    No one is even saying that something untoward happened.

    2)
    After that, we could also add the moot point that there's zero evidence presented that something inappropriate happened [ to support the allegation which has not been made ].

    3)
    There is evidence that Chalmers took emotion out of it and looked at the facts.
    The article cited in your article, the one from the Houston Chronicle, quotes Chalmers, "several" other members of the GJ saying that they made a good faith effort to be impartial about the thing.
    That is not very much evidence, their sayso I suppose.
    However, it stacks up against zero evidence to the contrary.
    More than zero is more than zero no matter how infinitesimal it is


    So, be as "concerned" as you like, or w/e tf you'd like to call it, but as of yet, there's nothing and no one actually saying that there's been any impropriety.
    Was this before or after she partied with one of the GJ witnesses? Or posted the "giddy" facebook entries during serving on the case? As I told you before Simon, you can give your opinion that nothing is wrong, and my opinion differs...

    IMHO, this is the liberal left trying to "criminalize" anything opposing liberalism.
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    We went over this already.

    Three points.

    1)
    If you actually read what is written, you will notice that there is not even one single allegation of wrongdoing.
    Not one.
    No one is even saying that something untoward happened.

    2)
    After that, we could also add the moot point that there's zero evidence presented that something inappropriate happened [ to support the allegation which has not been made ].

    3)
    There is evidence that Chalmers took emotion out of it and looked at the facts.
    The article cited in your article, the one from the Houston Chronicle, quotes Chalmers, "several" other members of the GJ saying that they made a good faith effort to be impartial about the thing.
    That is not very much evidence, their sayso I suppose.
    However, it stacks up against zero evidence to the contrary.
    More than zero is more than zero no matter how infinitesimal it is


    So, be as "concerned" as you like, or w/e tf you'd like to call it, but as of yet, there's nothing and no one actually saying that there's been any impropriety.
    That doesn't seem to matter to those demanding that the prosecutor not handle the Brown case.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Was this before or after she partied with one of the GJ witnesses?
    "partied with" = "Chalmers attended, photographed, and commented on an event with Democratic state Sen. Kirk Watson"

    Again, Sikma does not accuse Chalmers of wrongdoing.

    There are no allegations of wrongdoing--if there are, please share them
    There is no evidence of wrongdoing--if there is, please share


    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    As I told you before Simon, you can give your opinion that nothing is wrong, and my opinion differs...
    I am not giving an opinion.
    I am pointing out that no one has accused her of wrongdoing.


    What wrongdoing did Chalmers do?
    Who is accusing her of what wrongdoing?
    What evidence has been presented?
    Last edited by Simon W. Moon; 08-22-14 at 09:38 PM.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    That doesn't seem to matter to those demanding that the prosecutor not handle the Brown case.
    There are actual accusations of wrongdoing in that matter.
    No one has accused Chalmers of any wrongdoing.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    At least the outcome of the fiasco is that Perry's political career is over. Personally, I would rather this not having occurred. I looked forward to seeing Perry make a fool of himself again running for president.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    At least the outcome of the fiasco is that Perry's political career is over. Personally, I would rather this not having occurred. I looked forward to seeing Perry make a fool of himself again running for president.
    the only problem being that the guy in the WH right now fooled a lot of people, is totally incompetent so basically anyone else is a viable alternative.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    the only problem being that the guy in the WH right now fooled a lot of people, is totally incompetent so basically anyone else is a viable alternative.
    The difference is the "guy" in the White House right now was elected to that office twice. Rick Perry has not been elected to that office even one time. If fact, he was unable to secure his party's nomination because of his ignorance.

    Fooling a lot of people is something the conservatives have majored in for decades. Turn about is fair play.

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