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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Doesn't matter what Perry said, people like you are going to try to destroy his character
    It's hard to destroy something someone doesn't have.

    as he is a threat to the liberal ideology, a failed ideology that does nothing but spread misery and dependence.
    I'm a liberal, yet you seem to be the one complaining. I'm fat and happy!

    You just cannot stand that TX is successful and it is due to conservative principles therefore you have to destroy the governor and promote and support trumped up charges.
    I bet I've been in Texas a lot longer than you have. I was born here in 1952. I believe these conservative principles have done as much bad as they have good. The main reason Texas is successful is due to the dumb luck that oil just happened to be here in this part of the world. Don't get me wrong, this is one liberal who depends on money from oil wells to keep his liberal ass alive. Live is good!

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    It could also be that Perry isn't following his lawyer's instructions.
    Since we're guessing, perhaps Perry used the same legal standard that President Obama did when he traded away terrorists from gitmo?

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    It's hard to destroy something someone doesn't have.



    I'm a liberal, yet you seem to be the one complaining. I'm fat and happy!



    I bet I've been in Texas a lot longer than you have. I was born here in 1952. I believe these conservative principles have done as much bad as they have good. The main reason Texas is successful is due to the dumb luck that oil just happened to be here in this part of the world. Don't get me wrong, this is one liberal who depends on money from oil wells to keep his liberal ass alive. Live is good!
    Yep, dumb luck that is driving Fortune 500 Companies outside the Oil Industry to move to TX and thousands of people creating this incredible population growth. Some people simply cannot see the forest because of the trees. You are in that group

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Well, Rick pretty much shot himself (assassinated) in the 2012 debates with his brain farts, can't believe that some people actually want to see this man become POTUS, he probably can't remember what he had for dinner yesterday.

    But personally, I relished the fingerprint/mugshot sequence, the only thing missing was the bright orange jumpsuit.
    Nothing like character assassination of an individual you don't like on bogus charges where there was no personal gain. Glad to see you are happy for apparently that is all that matters.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    You certainly seem to embrace it
    You don't?
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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Wow, you just don't get it and apparently never will. this is an act, has to be. Sexual favors would be personal gain for the individual and an ethics violation.
    So the governor cannot veto something for "whatever reason" then, yes?
    It's possible that the governor could threaten to veto something and that threat could be a crime.
    Kind of trashes your assertion that a gov can veto for "whatever reason".
    It's clear that vetoes and veto threats have limits.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Asking for a resignation and not getting it happens all the time in business and in politics. That is far from an ethics violation. There was no personal gain for Perry, NONE. What part of that don't you understand?
    I don't understand why you keep talking about things which Perry is not accused of and then defending him against those non-existent charges.
    Perry was not indicted for asking for a resignation.
    I can link to the indictment if you would like to see what Perry was actually charged with if you would like to read the indictment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The indictment claims Perry abused is power by asking for a resignation and then vetoing legislation.
    The indictment actually does NOT claim that Perry asked for anyone's resignation, iirc.
    You're getting warmer, though.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Since we're guessing, perhaps Perry used the same legal standard that President Obama did when he traded away terrorists from gitmo?
    I don't know. This thread is about Perry, not Obama.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yep, dumb luck that is driving Fortune 500 Companies outside the Oil Industry to move to TX and thousands of people creating this incredible population growth. Some people simply cannot see the forest because of the trees. You are in that group
    I understand your frustration. I have worked my life in Houston, TX; I've got family and friends here, but I cannot wait until early next year when I can move to Colorado. I will enjoy visiting Texas, but I will be glad to finally leave.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    I understand your frustration. I have worked my life in Houston, TX; I've got family and friends here, but I cannot wait until early next year when I can move to Colorado. I will enjoy visiting Texas, but I will be glad to finally leave.
    Frustration? LOL, I am sure the people of TX will be so sad to see you go. I moved to TX in 92 and it was the best move I have ever made. Colorado is a lovely state and a great state to visit. You are going to love the taxes there and the cost of living. I have visited every state in the country and have yet to find anything like it is here. The old adage that the grass is greener on the other side until you get there holds true, but of course in Colorado the grass is brown and you smoke it. Maybe that is why you want to move there.

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    Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

    Quote Originally Posted by MTAtech View Post
    It is said that things are difficult to understand when one is invested in not understanding.

    Rick Perry is charged with one count of abuse of official capacity -- a first-degree felony (that's 5 to 99 years in prison) when the amount of government property misused is over $200,000 (as is alleged here), and one count of coercion of a public servant, a third-degree felony (2 to 10 years.)

    The basis for the allegations stemmed out of Travis County DA Rosemary Lehmberg's drunk-driving arrest back in April 2013. Lehmberg plead guilty and was sentenced to jail time and a fine. Rick Perry demanded that she resign, and threaten to withhold funding from the Public Integrity Unit -- a division of the Travis County DA's office that is charged with investigating and prosecuting state officials and lawmakers -- if she did not resign. She did not resign, and Perry followed up by vetoing state funding for the unit.

    Perry didn't demand a resignation from former Cameron County DA Armando Villalobos, who was taking payola. Lehmberg's office is in charge of investigating ethics violations by state officials and lawmakers. Were Lehmberg to resign, Perry would be allowed to appoint a replacement to serve until the next regularly-scheduled election. It sure looks as if Lehmberg was, in her official capacity, investigating people Perry didn't want investigated. Using Perry's veto threat to coerce a resignation is improper and may also be obstruction of justice.

    Kaufman County D.A. Rick Harrison (R) drove the wrong way into traffic and was found guilty of drunk driving in 2009

    Swisher County DA Terry McEachern (R), was convicted of a DUI in 2003.

    Neither seemed to catch the attention of Perry.

    Whether the indifference to those two was because of the 'R' behind their name or the fact that they weren't heading up an investigative unit looking into the Texas Cancer Research and Prevention Institute - in which a former high-ranking official was indicted on a state felony in connection with a $11 million grant and is one of Perry's pet projects - is unknown at this time.
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