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    Re: ISIS massacres 90 Yazidis in Northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Three years after Gaddafi, Libya is imploding into chaos and violence
    World View: Its government has no real power; militias are ever more entrenched, and now the state itself is under threat.


    Three years after Gaddafi, Libya is imploding into chaos and violence - Commentators - Voices - The Independent
    Anyone can find opinion articles that say anything. Not impressed. Got anything beside opinion articles and other logical fallacies?

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    Re: ISIS massacres 90 Yazidis in Northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    When you disregard an entire group of people, half the US population, as having no basis whatsoever for their position, you are engaging in grand conspiracy theory.
    ok, lol. I will play this game and see how far into absurdity you are willing to go.

    sure, i accept your premise! I think they're all crrrrrrazy!

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    Re: ISIS massacres 90 Yazidis in Northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Why you gotta do that to me Eco?

    For the record, just because I like a strong and confident woman, doesn't mean I want a dom. I guess you're for the weak and wimpy ones huh?
    You will not get a strong and confident women from Qaddafi's personal rape and torture harem.

    Your misconception is matched only by someone's declaration herein of "there are no human rights in the US and the West".

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    Re: ISIS massacres 90 Yazidis in Northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Unbelievable. Just fantastic that you'd have that to say. I'd call you a liar if you told me you had all that and weren't happy.
    Oh come on, we even see it from people in our world. There are some people out there that hate all the modern trappings of society, and would rather live a simpler life, more in-tuned with nature or God. Ever heard of a guy named Yukio Mishima? He was a famous and well respect Japanese author and was even nominated three times for a nobel prize in literature. A guy like that you'd think be happy. In fact, he was so unhappy that society had moved away from it's bushido roots, he tried a coup attempt back in the 70's in Japan. And when that failed, he commited Sepuku.

    Some people man..

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    Re: ISIS massacres 90 Yazidis in Northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    No true. Everyone has access to the best emergency rooms in the world, and other care, even if they cannot afford it. Further, federal insurance is subsidized.

    The developing world has nothing in comparison. Being able to visit a fly infested "emergency room" in the developing world for free is hardly a benefit and often a risk.
    No Eco, no.

    An operation to the ear, costed 30k $ to my cousin and he told me that if he would have had the insurance, he would have paid 0 $. What a difference. Health care is a privilege and it's concepted as a business/market (by giving and taking).
    People without the insurance are not treated the same way. They are always left at the end of the line.
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    Re: ISIS massacres 90 Yazidis in Northern Iraq

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    Don't make that face Eco.
    Human right is not just the free speech.
    In your country no one care for you if you haven't a health care card (or how it is called there) or some $$$.
    Gaddafi's Libya Was Africa 's Most Prosperous Democracy

    By Garikai Chengu

    12 January, 2013
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    Contrary to popular belief, Libya , which western media described as "Gaddafi's military dictatorship" was in actual fact one of the world's most democratic States.

    In 1977 the people of Libya proclaimed the Jamahiriya or "government of the popular masses by themselves and for themselves." The Jamahiriya was a higher form of direct democracy with 'the People as President.' Traditional institutions of government were disbanded and abolished, and power belonged to the people directly through various committees and congresses.

    The nation State of Libya was divided into several small communities that were essentially "mini-autonomous States" within a State. These autonomous States had control over their districts and could make a range of decisions including how to allocate oil revenue and budgetary funds. Within these mini autonomous States, the three main bodies of Libya 's democracy were Local Committees, People's Congresses and Executive Revolutionary Councils.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: ISIS massacres 90 Yazidis in Northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    ok, lol. I will play this game and see how far into absurdity you are willing to go.

    sure, i accept your premise! I think they're all crrrrrrazy!
    Well, let me know when you are willing and capable of recognizing the logic and reason of the opposing position.
    Last edited by ecofarm; 08-16-14 at 03:56 PM.

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    Re: ISIS massacres 90 Yazidis in Northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Oh come on, we even see it from people in our world. There are some people out there that hate all the modern trappings of society, and would rather live a simpler life, more in-tuned with nature or God. Ever heard of a guy named Yukio Mishima? He was a famous and well respect Japanese author and was even nominated three times for a nobel prize in literature. A guy like that you'd think be happy. In fact, he was so unhappy that society had moved away from it's bushido roots, he tried a coup attempt back in the 70's in Japan. And when that failed, he commited Sepuku.

    Some people man..
    What the hell does all that have to do with the FACT that Libyans had it better when Gaddafi was there.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: ISIS massacres 90 Yazidis in Northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    Then we are doomed to never leave with the associated drain on our national resources, as they will start right back up as soon as they get a chance. Because as soon as one group is quelled, another will rise until its finally worked out of their culture (as we have been seeing for the last at least fourty years). So long as we are involved, we will give them an excuse to not blame themselves for their actions.

    Personally I wish we could prevent genocide too, but if a culture is that committed, there isn't that much you can do to stop them since you can't wipe out an entire culture and retain the moral high ground. Maybe if let them do it for a generation, they next group of children will see the pointlessness of it.
    I agree that their cultural change must come from within, but I don't see a problem with containing the excesses of their cultural shifts or catalyzing the process. If a group threatens to reverse progress through extreme violence, as ISIS does, then we should prevent it from doing so. If people are trying to change their own culture but cannot due to a dictator (Syria and Libya), we should help them.

    Plus, there's the question of our security and economic interests. An off-hands approach to the Taliban in Afghanistan didn't do us much good at all.
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    Re: ISIS massacres 90 Yazidis in Northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Anyone can find opinion articles that say anything. Not impressed. Got anything beside opinion articles and other logical fallacies?
    And anyone can ignore facts, as you demonstrate daily. What a total loss.

    Libya is imploding. Its oil exports have fallen from 1.4 million barrels a day in 2011 to 235,000 barrels a day. Militias hold 8,000 people in prisons, many of whom say they have been tortured. Some 40,000 people from the town of Tawergha south of Misrata were driven from their homes which have been destroyed. "The longer Libyan authorities tolerate the militias acting with impunity, the more entrenched they become, and the less willing to step down" said Sarah Leah Whitson, Middle East and North Africa director at Human Rights Watch. "Putting off repeated deadlines to disarm and disband militias only prolongs the havoc they are creating throughout the country."
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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