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    Re: ISIS massacres 90 Yazidis in Northern Iraq

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    We shouldn't intervene in cases of genocide?
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    Re: ISIS massacres 90 Yazidis in Northern Iraq

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    Yeah, while Russia and Chinas Weapons kept spreading elsewhere.....while Iran and Qatar kept funding Terrorists. Whats forgotten.....is we don't control what they do nor think up to create any other intentional difficulties for us. Nor are we responsible for the actions and intent of others.
    I'm not concerned with the intent of others. I'm concerned with the trouble that American policy has caused in the ME. And you and other conservatives are confusing on this because you love to trash Obama on his foreign policy, and at the same time defend it, strange.
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    Re: ISIS massacres 90 Yazidis in Northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    We shouldn't intervene in cases of genocide?
    Our policy shouldn't facilitate genocide.
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    Re: ISIS massacres 90 Yazidis in Northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    In that region, we just need to stay out. Once their culture matures and there isn't a constant state of violence, we can reconsider because at that point there is a chance of lasting good.

    Until then, we need to give up on helping them
    I, for one, don't really think we should sit back and allow genocide to occur at the behest of a terrorist state simply because we judge their culture as being inferior to ours. Even if sustained intervention in the ME is a mistake, a line should at least be drawn at genocide.
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    Re: ISIS massacres 90 Yazidis in Northern Iraq

    America Can't Fix the Middle East, but It Can Fix Its Middle East Policy
    The secret to getting it right in the world's most volatile region is admitting when you're wrong.

    http://www.foreignpolicy.com/article...bama_bush_iraq
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    Re: ISIS massacres 90 Yazidis in Northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I'm not concerned with the intent of others. I'm concerned with the trouble that American policy has caused in the ME. And you and other conservatives are confusing on this because you love to trash Obama on his foreign policy, and at the same time defend it, strange.


    Well in your concern.....you have yet to show when it was Right for our Interests. Not once have I seen you speak favorably for anything concerning any US Foreign Policy. Other than to stay locked up and not do business anywhere else. Again.....you are not concerned with the intent of others. Yet if those others were attempting to do us harm such makes it a vital interest. Which you deny.

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    Re: ISIS massacres 90 Yazidis in Northern Iraq

    Drawing lines in the ME hasn't been that good for America.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: ISIS massacres 90 Yazidis in Northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well in your concern.....you have yet to show when it was Right for our Interests. Not once have I seen you speak favorably for anything concerning any US Foreign Policy. Other than to stay locked up and not do business anywhere else. Again.....you are not concerned with the intent of others. Yet if those others were attempting to do us harm such makes it a vital interest. Which you deny.
    Our non military, and non interfering policy's are just fine. My interests don't come at the expense of others lives. And I have never advocated to put a lock on "business" abroad. We should provide needed aid, support the fights against aids, homelessness and starvation. We should help developing countries with water quality and farming technology. We should engage in joint projects that improve the well being of people's lives. Participate in disaster relief and crisis management. We should engage in trade and all forms of legal business and tourism. We should have embassies and ambassadors to promote all those things. My criticisms to US foreign policy is limited and focused and you're quite aware of that.
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    Re: ISIS massacres 90 Yazidis in Northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Our non military, and non interfering policy's are just fine. My interests don't come at the expense of others lives. And I have never advocated to put a lock on "business" abroad. We should provide needed aid, support the fights against aids, homelessness and starvation. We should help developing countries with water quality and farming technology. We should engage in joint projects that improve the well being of people's lives. Participate in disaster relief and crisis management. We should engage in trade and all forms of legal business and tourism. We should have embassies and ambassadors to promote all those things. My criticisms to US foreign policy is limited and focused and you're quite aware of that.

    What about our commitments to Allies? Naturally some lines do have to be drawn. That's not to say BO's were.

    Let me ask you this.....how does the Policy change, once we become totally independent of others for energy sources? How does that affect others going forward? When they see that US will do so in less than a decade if not in under 5 years?

    Also no one is saying that both Parties haven't been getting it wrong when it comes to dealing with those in the ME.....especially when it comes to sharing our military tech.

    As well as with anyone else.

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    Re: ISIS massacres 90 Yazidis in Northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    I, for one, don't really think we should sit back and allow genocide to occur at the behest of a terrorist state simply because we judge their culture as being inferior to ours. Even if sustained intervention in the ME is a mistake, a line should at least be drawn at genocide.
    Then we are doomed to never leave with the associated drain on our national resources, as they will start right back up as soon as they get a chance. Because as soon as one group is quelled, another will rise until its finally worked out of their culture (as we have been seeing for the last at least fourty years). So long as we are involved, we will give them an excuse to not blame themselves for their actions.

    Personally I wish we could prevent genocide too, but if a culture is that committed, there isn't that much you can do to stop them since you can't wipe out an entire culture and retain the moral high ground. Maybe if let them do it for a generation, they next group of children will see the pointlessness of it.
    Last edited by tacomancer; 08-16-14 at 01:45 PM.

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