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    Re: ISIS massacres 90 Yazidis in Northern Iraq

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    Re: ISIS massacres 90 Yazidis in Northern Iraq

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    There's something very wrong with your knowledge of IS, they came out of Syria, due to Obama's failed policy there! You're trying to make me out to be a supporter of Obama's ME policy which is a huge fail. I don't. IS is, in large part the result of failed US policy, or maybe its intended US policy, perhaps I should say, bad US policy.
    There you go with the false accusations again. The issue has nothing to do with ISIS coming from Syria. The issue we both have been responding to is whether or not the US should respond to the extermination of the Yazidis by ISIS in Iraq, period.

    You say no and that's how I connected your principles on the subject to Obama's. He obviously doesn't think the US should get involved either. Its obvious from his inaction on the subject.

    I on the other hand do. What I don't understand is why those who think the US created the situation in Iraq that brought terrorists to the country wouldn't want the US to save a certain group of Iraqi's from being slaughtered by those terrorists.
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    Re: ISIS massacres 90 Yazidis in Northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The violent phase of the PKK has ended? Too funny, I guess that would be because they're fighting the somewhat more violent IS.
    See, I knew you were going to say this. I meant the PKK-Turkish conflict: their terrorist war against our NATO ally is over, meaning that our approach with them can be different.
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    Re: ISIS massacres 90 Yazidis in Northern Iraq

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    Between the time Gaddafi was overthrown and the CIA was able to find the cache of manpads, they had already been looted by various factions in Libya who most likely sold them to Qatar. Qatar then sent them to the rebels in Syria.

    Some of them also showed up in Afghanistan and one was used to shoot down the Chinook helicopter carrying Navy Seals including members of Seal Team 6 that had recently killed Osama Bin Laden.

    Most likely they were US made stingers.
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    Re: ISIS massacres 90 Yazidis in Northern Iraq

    AQI: The insurgent group was launched by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, an Arab of Jordanian descent, and flourished in the sectarian tensions that followed the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003. Zarqawi had commanded volunteers in Herat, Afghanistan, before fleeing to northern Iraq in 2001

    Baghdadi was a lieutenant in that orga. and after Zarqawi was killed -there was some other guy, but Baghdadi really got ISIL going.
    He claimed the caliphate as Caliph Ibrihim -basically saying even Zawahiri had to accept his prominence.

    It's an amazing run: here he is in Mosul ( note the Rolex watch)


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    Re: ISIS massacres 90 Yazidis in Northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    There you go with the false accusations again. The issue has nothing to do with ISIS coming from Syria. The issue we both have been responding to is whether or not the US should respond to the extermination of the Yazidis by ISIS in Iraq, period.

    You say no and that's how I connected your principles on the subject to Obama's. He obviously doesn't think the US should get involved either. Its obvious from his inaction on the subject.

    I on the other hand do. What I don't understand is why those who think the US created the situation in Iraq that brought terrorists to the country wouldn't want the US to save a certain group of Iraqi's from being slaughtered by those terrorists.
    All of this is invalidated by the fact that Obama did respond, conducted air strikes that successfully arrested IS advances on the Yazidi's.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: ISIS massacres 90 Yazidis in Northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    See, I knew you were going to say this. I meant the PKK-Turkish conflict: their terrorist war against our NATO ally is over, meaning that our approach with them can be different.
    Funny how groups of terrorists are arbitrarily moved onto and off of terror lists as such (though PKK remains on it presently) its quite obvious that the 'War on Terror' is a joke.

    The MEK was recently de-listed.

    Our consistency in arming and supporting terrorist groups is the problem in the ME region.

    An Abrams tank costs $4.3 million. An F-16 fighter jet is $45 million. Thus, another $1.760 billion of taxpayer funding has been used to further enhance the Muslim Brotherhood’s military capability. Yet when the amendment was defeated, Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT) contended the alternative was far worse, including “a loss of thousands of American jobs,” and “more than two billion dollars in contract-termination penalties for U.S. taxpayers.” In other words, the arming of a nation dominated by Islamists with interests completely inimical to the United States is the “lesser of two evils.”
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    Re: ISIS massacres 90 Yazidis in Northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    All of this is invalidated by the fact that Obama did respond, conducted air strikes that successfully arrested IS advances on the Yazidi's.
    Apparently your and Obama's acceptable response. We know where you both stand.

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    News from Northern Iraq today that 90 Yazidis were massacred today. Men were slaughtered and women were made slaves. This just a day after President Obama claimed the mission was ended and was successful. Really, "Mission Accomplished" well Obama lied and people died This is very sad. These people did nothing to ISIS. Just tragic.
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    Re: ISIS massacres 90 Yazidis in Northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Apparently your and Obama's acceptable response. We know where you both stand.
    Well if I really had what was acceptable, we wouldn't have supported militant Islamists for decades, which has emboldened and strengthened them, giving rise to the very problems that you apparently want another ground war over.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: ISIS massacres 90 Yazidis in Northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Well if I really had what was acceptable, we wouldn't have supported militant Islamists for decades, which has emboldened and strengthened them, giving rise to the very problems that you apparently want another ground war over.
    Keep changing the topic; it still doesn't mask your views on the matter, which BTW are similar if not identical to Obama's.
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