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    Re: Navy reverses Bible ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    I am an atheist, but Muslims could also be irked by finding an unwanted bible in their room.

    I am only saying, in a hotel room that I sleep in the bible goes out of that room. I do not want one in the drawer of my nightstand. It is where I want to put things that are important for me in my hotel room and I do not need or want a bible in there. That is all I am saying.
    I really feel bad for you that you have so much problem with a book being present in a hotel room.
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    Re: Navy reverses Bible ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Why don't they carry their own, instead of relying on government handouts?
    They are not government handouts....they are donated.

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    Re: Navy reverses Bible ban

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    It is not an "irrational fear". It is simply not wishing to have a particular religion pushed on them at a government facility, which a Navy Lodge technically is. Sure, it is only just in the drawer but that is still the appearance of supporting that religion over others because there is nothing to say differently and there is no secular reason to have those Bibles there.
    I am quite sure the hotel would have no problem with you returning the book to the front desk so there is no chance that it might offend you. Otherwise I think there is no purpose in repeating again why the presence of a donated Bible in a hotel/lodge room is not promoting anything.
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    Re: Navy reverses Bible ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Yeah, I know that's what happens.

    I just wonder why that became a thing. Why hotel rooms? I mean, wouldn't a person who feels the need to regularly crack open a bible while on the road...have one already? There's a crapload of hotel rooms in this country! That's a lot of bibles!
    They are donated. Get over it. Nobody is forced to read them.

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    Re: Navy reverses Bible ban

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    I am quite sure the hotel would have no problem with you returning the book to the front desk so there is no chance that it might offend you. Otherwise I think there is no purpose in repeating again why the presence of a donated Bible in a hotel/lodge room is not promoting anything.
    Just because you don't see it as promoting religion, specifically Christianity, doesn't mean that it isn't/doesn't. Other people do not see things the same way, particularly if they aren't Christian.

    It would be better to simply have those who want the Bibles ask for them rather than have them in the rooms, assuming most people would want them. Saves any questions as to whether it could appear to be promoting Christianity.
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    Re: Navy reverses Bible ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    The Gideons are permitted to put books in government rooms?
    Why would that be an issue?

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    Re: Navy reverses Bible ban

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I don't really have an issue with it but I also see the other side too. I honestly don't think it is worth it for either side to decry. Now, I would say though that they have to accept and put out any religious based material though that is given or none at all. This would have to include Wiccan, FSM, or even Satanism as well.
    Not if they want my business.

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    Re: Navy reverses Bible ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Around 70-80% of our military personnel profess Christianity.

    I don't have the figures in front of me, but I'd guess less than 1% profess Islam.


    Yes, it does make a difference.
    No it doesn't make a difference. When you wear the uniform you are defending the rights of all
    Americans. If you can't do that the you have no business wearing a uniform. However the armed forced does have religious services for the people serving, but the military welcomes all who is willing to take the oath to defend the Constitution. When religion becomes a prerequisite then problems arise, just look at the issues the USAF has had.

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    Re: Navy reverses Bible ban

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    I see no issue with the Bibles. They are there as a courtesy. They are not required to open it.
    Agreed.

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    Re: Navy reverses Bible ban

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Not if they want my business.
    Either they do all or none. They cannot do both. If anyone else asked them to put any books or even just pamphlets/papers in their rooms (provided by some private party), so long as they cannot be deemed as "offensive" (something that basically couldn't be sold openly in the NEX), they would have to do it as long as they put the Bibles there. Otherwise they are opening themselves up to a lawsuit that they have little chance of winning.
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