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Michael Brown was a robbery suspect before he was shot to death, police say

There is a video of a black guy assaulting the store clerk. Yea, I know, I know, they all look alike. Right?

Well, to be fair, it was a black guy wearing the same kind of clothes Mike Brown was wearing when he got shot and, generally, the same size as Mike Brown.
 
Lol...

Thats funny coming from a guy who pretends to know exactly what happened inside the Police car.

I don't, and have expressed just that. Again, playing stupid makes you look bad and serves no purpose.I have called for proper and thorough investigation. This guy being a suspect in and of itself gives no credence or justification to shooting him in this instance, it's immaterial.
 
We don't know enough about what led up to the shooting of Brown.

Did he and or his accomplice fight with the cop? Did the officer receive the bulletin that described Brown before he saw them?

But as far as I know, the perps had no guns.

You're right, we don't know...but assuming they did not comply which means they resisted. Did Bundy resist? If the Federal Officials shot him would they be right?
 
I don't, and have expressed just that. Again, playing stupid makes you look bad and serves no purpose.I have called for proper and thorough investigation. This guy being a suspect in and of itself gives no credence or justification to shooting him in this instance, it's immaterial.


And then you made the unequivocal assertion that he was arbitrarily executed.

Make up your mind already.
 
Does this change how those defending Brown's friends versions perceive the lead up to the altercation between Brown and the police?

Mike Brown has lost his halo that was holding up his gentle giant image, with his own hands.
 
Nope. Being a suspect doesn't mean you may be arbitrarily executed by the police.

I agree with the statement, but not that it applies to this this event. There was nothing arbitrary here.
 
Does this change how those defending Brown's friends versions perceive the lead up to the altercation between Brown and the police?

Why would it?
This type of information was known from the start. It just wasn't as specific.



This from four days ago.
The slain teenager and a friend were “accused of stealing gum from the store or some sort of cigarettes,” the alderman said.

Protests, looting in streets after teen Michael Brown is fatally shot by police | WTVR.com
 
Well the police do shoot a lot of people, any interaction with them increases your odds of being shot.

Absolutely false. There are quite a lot of people who interact with the police regularly and have never been shot, nor are they likely to be, at least by the police. Myself included.
 
I agree with the statement, but not that it applies to this this event. There was nothing arbitrary here.

IF events unfolded as the witnesses say, then the cops did indeed arbitrarily shoot him.
 
Absolutely false. There are quite a lot of people who interact with the police regularly and have never been shot, nor are they likely to be, at least by the police. Myself included.

Indeed, yet my probability of being shot increases when I interact with the police.
 
If Michael Brown pointed a gun at the officer would the officer of had cause to shoot Michael Brown?

People at the Bundy Ranch trained guns on Federal Officers.

We're talking about the escalation of force here...when is it warranted and when is it not.

Michael Brown (according to reports) was told to comply and refused

Bundy was told to comply and refused.

The difference in this context is that Brown fought with the officer, according to his accomplice and the police.
 
IF events unfolded as the witnesses say, then the cops did indeed arbitrarily shoot him.

No, not even IF, and that's a big IF, the witnesses, one of which include his accomplice in the robbery, are correct in their statements. Not arbitrary at all. The officer was trying to detain a robbery suspect.

We still do not know if the shots fired after Brown had supposedly surrendered were justified. If they weren't, still wouldn't have been arbitrary.
 
As I showed Tres...three in August. As for quantifiable data? Apparently it's difficult to track since federal databases track police use of force and local police data is fragmented.

Ok, then without trying to be snarky ramen, Your comment about it being "common" is subjective.
 
Indeed, yet my probability of being shot increases when I interact with the police.

No, that probability increasing or decreasing depends solely upon YOUR behavior when you're interacting with police. For most folks your statement isn't true.
 
That story does not pass the smell test. If he were truly a robbery suspect, then why didn't the officer detain him the first time he stopped him, instead of telling him to get out of the middle of the road? If Brown had actually committed a robbery, then why did he talk to the officer the first time he was stopped, telling the officer that he was only a minute away from his destination, instead of running? Add to that the fact that the kid had never been in trouble with the police, has a clean record, has been described by everybody as shy and soft spoken, and was about to be a college student, then this smacks of a police department cover up. Something smells in Ferguson, Missouri, and it ain't the toilets.
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That was information known from the get as already shown.
All you are doing for the most part, is using the accomplice's story to try and refute it. That is illogical.
 
No, not even IF, and that's a big IF, the witnesses, one of which include his accomplice in the robbery, are correct in their statements. Not arbitrary at all. The officer was trying to detain a robbery suspect.

We still do not know if the shots fired after Brown had supposedly surrendered were justified. If they weren't, still wouldn't have been arbitrary.

The police cannot be allowed to shoot anyone they desire under the guise of attempted detainment. If they just get to shoot whomever they want and claim whatever they want, then that is arbitrary execution. No fact, no proof, no warrant, just blam blam
 
It's not uncommon with this force.

This innocent man was mistakenly arrested, but having already been beaten up by them, was charged with bleeding on their uniforms...

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The Day Ferguson Cops Were Caught in a Bloody Lie - The Daily Beast
 
The police cannot be allowed to shoot anyone they desire under the guise of attempted detainment. If they just get to shoot whomever they want and claim whatever they want, then that is arbitrary execution. No fact, no proof, no warrant, just blam blam

That's not the way it works. Cope are held accountable for bad shoots all the time. Maybe it doesn't happen every time but they are held to roughly the same standards as anyone else.
 
The police cannot be allowed to shoot anyone they desire under the guise of attempted detainment. If they just get to shoot whomever they want and claim whatever they want, then that is arbitrary execution. No fact, no proof, no warrant, just blam blam

Nonsense. Brown, again according to his accomplice, was shot twice before he surrendered. Shooting him after he had surrendered would be a criminal overreaction to the situation, but again, nothing at all arbitrary about it.
 
So much for that indignant self righteous rush to judgment.
 
You're right, we don't know...but assuming they did not comply which means they resisted. Did Bundy resist? If the Federal Officials shot him would they be right?

In the Bundy case, it was about the fed's not having the balls to attack such a large group.

This kid Brown looks as if he beat the cop up enough to be hospitalized. No such damage was caused by Bundy's group.
 
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