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Michael Brown was a robbery suspect before he was shot to death, police say

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(CNN) -- Police named the officer involved in the shooting of Ferguson, Missouri, teenager Michael Brown on Friday, then released documents containing a bombshell: The 18-year-old was the "primary suspect" in the robbery of a convenience store moments before he was killed.Officer Darren Wilson, a six-year veteran of the department, was responding to that call when he encountered Brown, police Chief Thomas Jackson told reporters.
According to the documents, Brown roughly handled a clerk trying to stop him before walking out of the store with a box of Swisher Sweets cigars.
The unidentified police officer who wrote the incident report on the robbery said he identified Brown by comparing surveillance images of the incident to the body of the slain teen.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/15/us/missouri-teen-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1


Does this change how those defending Brown's friends versions perceive the lead up to the altercation between Brown and the police?
 
Does this change how those defending Brown's friends versions perceive the lead up to the altercation between Brown and the police?

There's no doubt it does. We can agree though that cop shoots unarmed black man/teenager is a pretty common occurrence and that's the reason this blew up?
 
Does this change how those defending Brown's friends versions perceive the lead up to the altercation between Brown and the police?

Not saying anyone who robs a convenience store should be or deserves to be shot, but if there is truth to the story, it certainly changes some things, not the least among which is the credibility of the witness that some are insisting on here is rock solid.
 
Does this change how those defending Brown's friends versions perceive the lead up to the altercation between Brown and the police?

The first witness was an accomplice. The two women who said they witnessed it had the exact same story, nearly word for word.
 
There's no doubt it does. We can agree though that cop shoots unarmed black man/teenager is a pretty common occurrence and that's the reason this blew up?

No, I won't speculate that...You'd have to define what "common" constitutes, and provide quantifiable stats to back up that general disparaging statement.
 
The first witness was an accomplice. The two women who said they witnessed it had the exact same story, nearly word for word.

As the moral of the story is being written, it's lesson remains the holy grail.
 
It makes a huge difference.

Imagine the press release " Police shoot Strong arm robbery suspect after a struggle "

Compared to " Police murder unarmed gentle giant for no good reason "
 
No, I won't speculate that...You'd have to define what "common" constitutes, and provide quantifiable stats to back up that general disparaging statement.

You don't mind speculating by questioning the victim's alleged suspect status making him guilty in his own death..... right.
 
You don't mind speculating by questioning the victim's alleged suspect status making him guilty in his own death..... right.

Alleged ? There's video of him assaulting the store clerk.
 
Alleged ? There's video of him assaulting the store clerk.

But he was such an angel, there's even pictures to show how delightful he was and all the neighbors said he was quiet and likable. Not to mention I got such grief from the cheap seats when I suggested he may in fact be a thug.
 
You don't mind speculating by questioning the victim's alleged suspect status making him guilty in his own death..... right.

There is video of him...Speculating? I think both sides are doing that, no?
 
It's a common occurrence?

How often does it happen?

When in the last month....four?
Eric Garner, Staten Island, not shot but strangled to death in a chokehold.
John Crawford in Ohio shot for carrying around a BB gun rifle he picked up off the shelf.
Ezell Ford in LA..."investigative stop"...LA police claimed he turned around and tackled the lead police officer. Others say that they shot him while he was laying on the ground. He was shot in the back.

That's in August.
 
But he was such an angel, there's even pictures to show how delightful he was and all the neighbors said he was quiet and likable. Not to mention I got such grief from the cheap seats when I suggested he may in fact be a thug.

You were right on the money the entire time.
 
Does this change how those defending Brown's friends versions perceive the lead up to the altercation between Brown and the police?

No.
Its almost expected of those who are going through the grieving process to see their loved one differently than those who are not emotionally involved.
Let it play out until all the facts are in, let the justice system do what it must, and have compassion for the friends and families of the victim, however guilty or innocent he may be. Also pray for the cop and his friends and family, hoping that clear heads and justice will prevail.
 
No, I won't speculate that...You'd have to define what "common" constitutes, and provide quantifiable stats to back up that general disparaging statement.

As I showed Tres...three in August. As for quantifiable data? Apparently it's difficult to track since federal databases track police use of force and local police data is fragmented.
 
Does this change how those defending Brown's friends versions perceive the lead up to the altercation between Brown and the police?

That story does not pass the smell test. If he were truly a robbery suspect, then why didn't the officer detain him the first time he stopped him, instead of telling him to get out of the middle of the road? If Brown had actually committed a robbery, then why did he talk to the officer the first time he was stopped, telling the officer that he was only a minute away from his destination, instead of running? Add to that the fact that the kid had never been in trouble with the police, has a clean record, has been described by everybody as shy and soft spoken, and was about to be a college student, then this smacks of a police department cover up. Something smells in Ferguson, Missouri, and it ain't the toilets.
 
But he was such an angel, there's even pictures to show how delightful he was and all the neighbors said he was quiet and likable. Not to mention I got such grief from the cheap seats when I suggested he may in fact be a thug.

Because you pulled it outta your ass? If a black guy is shot by a cop...or by anybody he's a thug in your book.
 
When in the last month....four?
Eric Garner, Staten Island, not shot but strangled to death in a chokehold.
John Crawford in Ohio shot for carrying around a BB gun rifle he picked up off the shelf.
Ezell Ford in LA..."investigative stop"...LA police claimed he turned around and tackled the lead police officer. Others say that they shot him while he was laying on the ground. He was shot in the back.

That's in August.

Eric Garner was in July. It was a chokehold. Still being investigated. The action against Crawford I understand was found to be just. I don't know about Ford but if tackled a PO, what should have happened?

So how do these back up your claim?
 
That story does not pass the smell test. If he were truly a robbery suspect, then why didn't the officer detain him the first time he stopped him, instead of telling him to get out of the middle of the road? If Brown had actually committed a robbery, then why did he talk to the officer the first time he was stopped, telling the officer that he was only a minute away from his destination, instead of running? Add to that the fact that the kid had never been in trouble with the police, has a clean record, has been described by everybody as shy and soft spoken, and was about to be a college student, then this smacks of a police department cover up. Something smells in Ferguson, Missouri, and it ain't the toilets.


There is video and pictures of him assaulting the store clerk.

What else do you need ?
 
There is video and pictures of him assaulting the store clerk.

What else do you need ?

There is a video of a black guy assaulting the store clerk. Yea, I know, I know, they all look alike. Right?
 
You don't mind speculating by questioning the victim's alleged suspect status making him guilty in his own death..... right.

Most people who have just committed a crime don't blatantly walk down the middle of the road to draw more attention to themselves.

Those fellas must have felt overly empowered that day or they had a death wish.
 
Because you pulled it outta your ass? If a black guy is shot by a cop...or by anybody he's a thug in your book.

I'd like to hear some recent stories of black men walking along on a sidewalk, minding their own business, and cops just shooting at them at will.

Do you also have any of these "common occurences" that involve cops shooting black lawyers, accountants, doctors, mechanics, etc. out of the blue?
 
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