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    Re: Michael Brown was a robbery suspect before he was shot to death, police say

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    I am pointing out why you are wrong
    His theft was accomplished by force.
    Had force not been involved, then it would have been shoplifting.

    You don't like the law? Change it.
    Really, dude? No one said they didn't like the way the law was written or how it's defined. I was just saying I didn't see "robbery" in the way you do. But upon further review (see above), I can see how the theft and forceful act tie together to equate to robbery.

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    Re: Michael Brown was a robbery suspect before he was shot to death, police say

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Really, dude? No one said they didn't like the way the law was written or how it's defined. I was just saying I didn't see "robbery" in the way you do. But upon further review (see above), I can see how the theft and forceful act tie together to equate to robbery.

    You can climb down off your high horse now.
    Really, dude? I posted 7 min before your acquiescence.

    And your dislike of being corrected is not my problem, nor does it mean I am on a high horse.
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    Re: Michael Brown was a robbery suspect before he was shot to death, police say

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Really, dude? I posted 7 min before your acquiescence.

    And your dislike of being corrected is not my problem, nor does it mean I am on a high horse.
    I don't have a problem with being corrected. I do, however, have a problem with being disrespected.

    I didn't acquiesce. I came to a better understanding and agreed with such.

    No need to be pissed 'cause I didn't read/agree with your post first.

    Again, get off your high horse.
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    Re: Michael Brown was a robbery suspect before he was shot to death, police say

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Where's the force at the time the alleged merchandise was taken? You don't see a weapon used do you? All you see is the aggravated swipe of the box off the counter which was put back. Granted, the merchandise that was dropped on the floor and subsequently picked up by MB is clearly theft in my view since it's clear he didn't pay for it, but the "force" doesn't come until MB grabs the store clerk by his shirt collar and shoves him back against the door as he exits the store.

    I'm not defending the guy at least not in the sense to suggest he didn't do anything wrong. I just question the "forceful act of robbery" so many are claiming happened. I do see that in the video. I see him walk out with merchandise he very likely didn't pay for, but I don't see "robbery" here, just petty theft.
    strong-arm
    [strawng-ahrm, strong-] Spell Syllables
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    using, involving, or threatening the use of physical force or violence to gain an objective:
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    to use violent methods upon; assault.
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    to coerce by threats or intimidation; bully:
    They strong-armed me into voting for the plan.

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    The moment he grabbed the clerk/owner by the collar and threatened him it became a strong arm robbery.
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    Re: Michael Brown was a robbery suspect before he was shot to death, police say

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I don't have a problem with being corrected. I do, however, have a problem with being disrespected.

    I didn't acquiesce. I came to a better understanding and agreed with such.

    No need to be pissed 'cause I didn't read/agree with your post first.

    Again, get off your high horse.
    Disrespected?
    1.) That is an absurd clam.
    2.) A lack of knowledge shouldn't be respected.

    And yes, the word acquiesce was completely fitting.
    But if you prefer capitulated, I have no problem using that either.


    So the only high horse here is yours.
    Last edited by Excon; 08-22-14 at 11:02 PM.
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    Re: Michael Brown was a robbery suspect before he was shot to death, police say

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I'm pretty certain I made that observation already. You're not saying anything I hadn't already pointed out. I just don't see it as robbery.

    Petty theft...

    Aggravated assault...

    But IMO, not robbery.

    It's the intimidation that stands out the most to me.
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    Re: Michael Brown was a robbery suspect before he was shot to death, police say

    Here is the relevant portion of the transcript from the store owner's lawyer:

    KANZLER: Sure. I mean, first of all, my clients have never said that that is Michael Brown in the video. In fact, before that weekend they had never seen that individual, Michael Brown, or the individual on the tape in the store. What I can say is that what occurs on the tape, what you see on the tape, did occur in the store. Somebody did come in. Somebody did attempt to steal cigars. Just as that individual on the tape can be seen doing it, he reached around the counter and tried to grab additional cigars from the clerk. There were words exchanged with the female cashier and then the store clerk did try to go to the front door to lock the door and to talk to the individual in the video.
    Apparently what some of you believe was Michael Brown paying for the cigars was just Michael Brown stealing additional cigars.

    CNN.com - Transcripts

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