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    Re: Michael Brown was a robbery suspect before he was shot to death, police say


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    Re: Michael Brown was a robbery suspect before he was shot to death, police say

    The Ferguson Police Department now has two official stories:

    In the first, the men were stopped on suspicion of a robbery.

    https://news.yahoo.com/why-isnt-dori...143711703.html

    According to a report released Friday by the Ferguson Police Department, Michael Brown robbed a nearby convenience store just minutes before he was shot and killed by officer Darren Wilson.

    The report notes that Wilson shot and killed Brown in the course of trying to apprehend him on suspicion of that robbery.
    In the second, they are stopped for blocking traffic:

    Police: Officer Wasn't Aware Michael Brown Was Suspect in Alleged Robbery - WSJ

    Chief Thomas Jackson also released documents and surveillance video, alleging that Mr. Brown was tied to a robbery at a convenience store shortly before he crossed paths with police. Hours later, Mr. Jackson held another news conference in which he said Mr. Wilson, who is white, wasn't aware of the robbery when he stopped Mr. Brown.
    Also of note: In the second story, the robbery has nothing to do with the stop:

    Michael Brown shooting: Officer stopped teen for blocking street, 'that was it' - World - CBC News

    "[The robbery] had nothing to do with the stop," Ferguson, Mo., police Chief Thomas Jackson told reporters.

    "They were walking down the middle of the street, blocking traffic, that was it," he said.
    However that contradicts this part of the first story where Wilson himself has responded to the alleged robbery.

    Attorney: Dorian Johnson confirms he was with Brown at store robbery

    Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson said the officer involved in the shooting -- identified as Darren Wilson -- had gone to the area after a 911 call reporting the robbery. He says a dispatcher gave a description of the suspect, and that Wilson encountered Brown a few minutes before another officer arrived.
    Yep, this isn't going to end well for that department. They're either full of **** or hiding something. They're admitting 4 facts which contradict each other in the most basic of ways.

    1. Report says officer stopped them on suspicion of robbery. Contradicted by: 1. Police chief admitting that they were stopped for blocking traffic.
    2. Officer was the one who responded to the 911 call on the robbery. Contradicted by: 2. Police chief admitting the officer did not know about the robbery.
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    Re: Michael Brown was a robbery suspect before he was shot to death, police say

    Whether Brown was truly a robbery suspect or this is just more police misinformation we will soon find out.

    What is more disturbing is the police reaction to the protests, they forcefully went after many people and arrested quite a few including a few journalists on false pretenses. There ought to be a follow up on that and any cop acting above and beyond their mandates ought to be fired.

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    Re: Michael Brown was a robbery suspect before he was shot to death, police say

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The Ferguson Police Department now has two official stories:

    In the first, the men were stopped on suspicion of a robbery.

    https://news.yahoo.com/why-isnt-dori...143711703.html



    In the second, they are stopped for blocking traffic:

    Police: Officer Wasn't Aware Michael Brown Was Suspect in Alleged Robbery - WSJ



    Also of note: In the second story, the robbery has nothing to do with the stop:

    Michael Brown shooting: Officer stopped teen for blocking street, 'that was it' - World - CBC News



    However that contradicts this part of the first story where Wilson himself has responded to the alleged robbery.

    Attorney: Dorian Johnson confirms he was with Brown at store robbery



    Yep, this isn't going to end well for that department. They're either full of **** or hiding something. They're admitting 4 facts which contradict each other in the most basic of ways.

    1. Report says officer stopped them on suspicion of robbery. Contradicted by: 1. Police chief admitting that they were stopped for blocking traffic.
    2. Officer was the one who responded to the 911 call on the robbery. Contradicted by: 2. Police chief admitting the officer did not know about the robbery.
    I guess the various details point to why it takes a bit of time to investigate what happened. While it's not against the law to add to the evidence that a person is a violent piece of crap, as Brown seemed to want to do, his state of mind after commiting a felony can't be ignored. Given what the "witnesses" chose to lie about, it's going to be a real mess trying to sort it all out.

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    Re: Michael Brown was a robbery suspect before he was shot to death, police say

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The chief is going to scrifice Wilson, to save his own ass. Til now he thought he could appear to support Wilson, then back-peddle when Wilson got convicted. The more facts that come out, the less guilty Wilson looks.

    I wonder the chief of police is elected. The mayor damn sure is and he hires the chief.

    It's shameful how Wilson is going to be run rough-shod through a kangaroo court.
    I tend to agree with you because I am inclined to give the benefit of the doubt to LE when in concerns matters of he said/he said with only biased witnesses available. However, you have to admit that it looks shady, and brings in doubt when the police withhold information, or give conflicting facts about what went on from their end.
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    Re: Michael Brown was a robbery suspect before he was shot to death, police say

    At this point there is no denying Brown was a suspect in a robbery. It has been confirmed and verified that it is him in the surveillance video.
    There's been a lot of opinions in this case being reported in the media as facts. The whole "gentle giant" depiction of Brown that was repeated over and over nationwide in print and continuously in social media and newscasts embarrassed the media yesterday when the video of Brown strong arming a little guy while stealing $50 worth of sweet cigars was released. Another thing that was embarrassing for the media that showed Brown not to be a "gentle giant" is when the reports came out that the officer that shot him had to seek medical attention because of injuries he received from Brown during an altercation. This too takes away from the whole "gentle giant" depiction the media has been spinning. Another thing that bothers me is the media also reported that Brown did not have an arrest record. He was only 18. If he had been in trouble with the law prior he would have been a juvenile and it is my understanding that juvenile records are sealed and can not be opened except by court order. So they really don't know about Brown's past because they have no way of verifying such things except through the court. Surely because he hadn't been in trouble the few months he by law was considered an adult hardly gives a full and honest account of his history. But it does play into the "gentle giant" they were portraying.

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    Re: Michael Brown was a robbery suspect before he was shot to death, police say

    Where did the "gentle giant" motif come from anyway?

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    Re: Michael Brown was a robbery suspect before he was shot to death, police say

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Where did the "gentle giant" motif come from anyway?
    His family

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    Re: Michael Brown was a robbery suspect before he was shot to death, police say

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    You don't mind speculating by questioning the victim's alleged suspect status making him guilty in his own death..... right.
    Whipping out the death card because you're afraid your politics have been hurt?
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    Re: Michael Brown was a robbery suspect before he was shot to death, police say

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Whether Brown was truly a robbery suspect or this is just more police misinformation we will soon find out.

    What is more disturbing is the police reaction to the protests, they forcefully went after many people and arrested quite a few including a few journalists on false pretenses. There ought to be a follow up on that and any cop acting above and beyond their mandates ought to be fired.
    Apparently, since there was more rioting last night, they didn't arrest enough.

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