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    Re: Michael Brown was a robbery suspect before he was shot to death, police say

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    As some one pointed out earlier, the Officer may have come to that knowledge during their interaction.


    A third person recounting of what they were told by the Officer, seems to confirm this.






    As in a thread started by Josie.
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...adio-show.html
    I'm not interested in hearsay or speculation. I'm interested in facts. The only facts everyone agrees on right now is that Brown was unarmed, that he was shot several times and that he died.
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    Re: Michael Brown was a robbery suspect before he was shot to death, police say

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    No, people like you who value cigars over human life take the cake.
    So, thievery should be legal?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Michael Brown was a robbery suspect before he was shot to death, police say

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    There is a video of a black guy assaulting the store clerk. Yea, I know, I know, they all look alike. Right?
    At least someone gets it. These reich-wing racists are trying to hide what we all know. And that is that soft-spoken Michael, the innocent young black man murdered by that bloodthirsty white fascist cop, had a hell-raising twin brother, Marquel. And that was Marquel acting up again on that video, not Michael.

    Sure, there's no birth certificate for Marquel, but he was born under unusual circumstances--too long a story to go into here. And there are no school records, because Marquel never gone to no school. Same with medical and dental records--he didn't need doctors, because he was healthy as a horse. And Marquel hated the very idea of going to a dentist.

    So if you want to job a black man for this, go find Marquel, and hang it on him. He's around someplace. Nothing but a damn box of cigars anyway--if they've got to make a big fuss about that, give him a couple hours community service or something. Power to the people! Black power! Down with the man!
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    Re: Michael Brown was a robbery suspect before he was shot to death, police say

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    I'm not interested in hearsay or speculation. I'm interested in facts. The only facts everyone agrees on right now is that Brown was unarmed, that he was shot several times and that he died.
    Those are the ONLY facts we know right now, correct. Which is why the people making accusations against either the cop or Brown are basing their posts on assumptions, not facts.

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    Re: Michael Brown was a robbery suspect before he was shot to death, police say

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I can make the statement as an absolute, Ikari. The ONLY reason I would shoot someone is if my life or my kids' lives were in danger. I could never shoot anyone just to shoot the person. Yes, I say that with absolute conviction, more than I could state I would never cheat on my husband, never lie to my boss, never steal, and never run naked through Central Park.
    What if someone stole food from your starving kids?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Michael Brown was a robbery suspect before he was shot to death, police say

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I can make the statement as an absolute, Ikari. The ONLY reason I would shoot someone is if my life or my kids' lives were in danger. I could never shoot anyone just to shoot the person. Yes, I say that with absolute conviction, more than I could state I would never cheat on my husband, never lie to my boss, never steal, and never run naked through Central Park.
    You can say it as an absolute, but it most likely isn't absolute. Just because you cannot conceive of a scenario doesn't mean that one doesn't exist. More times than not, absolutes aren't actually absolute.
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    Re: Michael Brown was a robbery suspect before he was shot to death, police say

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What if someone stole food from your starving kids?
    Damn, I hope my kids are never starving, but if they were, we'd sell my husband's guns to buy them food.

    Now, if we had no guns and someone stole food from my kids, my husband and I would find something else to beat the **** out of whoever was stealing.

    I probably, if alone in that situation, would have to let the thief take the food because I'm not big and strong enough to fight a thug on my own.

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    Re: Michael Brown was a robbery suspect before he was shot to death, police say

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    'Somebody associated with the cop'? No thanks, I'm not buying that one. It's an attempt to justify an unjustifiable act. Cops are famous for lying like hell to protect their own.
    With all due respect, companions of criminals tend to lie too.

    This is what gets me. For a lot of folks it seems more reasonable to assume that the cop simply freaked out and killed the kid for no reason than that the kid did something to provoke the cop into shooting. Why is that?

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    Re: Michael Brown was a robbery suspect before he was shot to death, police say

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    You can say it as an absolute, but it most likely isn't absolute. Just because you cannot conceive of a scenario doesn't mean that one doesn't exist. More times than not, absolutes aren't actually absolute.
    Even if that were true, which it isn't, what does it have to do with what we're discussing anyway?

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    Re: Michael Brown was a robbery suspect before he was shot to death, police say

    No, just like you didn't miss the part in the article where it said all of them were dangerous felons. The police in this country have a deserved reputation for being gun happy cowboys. Your chances of encountering this decrease rapidly with your income level and the color of your skin. The whiter and the more well off you are, the less your chances of encountering one of these rogues.

    I do love how they've now taken to dressing up like combat soldiers. One Iraq veteran was quoted as saying these guys were better armed and better protected while covering a peaceful demonstration than he was while on patrol in Afghanistan. They love that tough guy image, secure in the knowledge that, unlike Afghanistan, their 'enemies' are unarmed.
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