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    Re: Michael Brown was a robbery suspect before he was shot to death, police say

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    The difference in this context is that Brown fought with the officer, according to his accomplice and the police.
    Yes those details also came out today that the police officer sustained injuries bad enough to require medical attention.

    Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson says the officer who shot and killed unarmed black teenager Michael Brown last Saturday is Darren Wilson, a six-year veteran of the force who has no disciplinary actions on his record with the department.

    The release of Wilson's name comes after Jackson said he wouldn't identify the man out of concerns for his safety, citing death threats made to Ferguson police and on social media. Jackson said that Wilson was treated for injuries he sustained Saturday.
    Ferguson Police Release Name Of Officer Who Shot Michael Brown : The Two-Way : NPR

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    Re: Michael Brown was a robbery suspect before he was shot to death, police say

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So you got, what 5 there? I didn't look to see if they are all different. How many people are killed by police every year? I found about 500/year (which if true isn't all that high). so assuming your links are all from the same year, 1%? I didn't perform an exhaustive search, maybe you can turn up different numbers. So at most 1% are held accountable. Now all of those 500 aren't unjustified; but how many are investigated? How often are abuses uncovered and punished? And that's just in killing...how many other nonfatal abuses are going on?
    First off, not everyone shot by a cop is innocent.

    Second, the results are from a simple google search ("cop arrested for shooting")

    I'd suggest that this is ample evidence that cops are absolutely held accountable for their actions. Just like with the civilian population, the results aren't always what we want to see but that doesn't mean that there is no accountability.

    Frankly, I'm burnt out on these silly games. I'm sick and tired of people screaming "INJUSTICE" every time their sensibilities are hurt. I don't have any more facts than anyone else here does about the Mike Brown shooting but I'll be damned if I'll condemn either him or the cop until I have those facts.

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    Re: Michael Brown was a robbery suspect before he was shot to death, police say

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Yes those details also came out today that the police officer sustained injuries bad enough to require medical attention.



    Ferguson Police Release Name Of Officer Who Shot Michael Brown : The Two-Way : NPR
    This is getting curiouser and curiouser, isn't it?

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    Re: Michael Brown was a robbery suspect before he was shot to death, police say

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    First off, not everyone shot by a cop is innocent.

    Second, the results are from a simple google search ("cop arrested for shooting")

    I'd suggest that this is ample evidence that cops are absolutely held accountable for their actions. Just like with the civilian population, the results aren't always what we want to see but that doesn't mean that there is no accountability.

    Frankly, I'm burnt out on these silly games. I'm sick and tired of people screaming "INJUSTICE" every time their sensibilities are hurt. I don't have any more facts than anyone else here does about the Mike Brown shooting but I'll be damned if I'll condemn either him or the cop until I have those facts.
    In threads here yesterday, the cop was called a murderer, and executioner, a killer, and so on. It was as if his trial had already happened.

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    Re: Michael Brown was a robbery suspect before he was shot to death, police say

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Not quite, as police have shot up many an innocent. So it's not 100% restricted to my own behavior.
    Yes, it is. First, you have no proof "police have shot up many an innocent", at least not in the modern era. Second, those few who were shot weren't just standing around innocently. That does not justify the shootings, but it does demonstrate that the probability of being shot does not rise simply from greater exposure to police.

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    Re: Michael Brown was a robbery suspect before he was shot to death, police say

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Bundy's threat of force came after the government's actions. IMO,he was protecting himself and family.
    Bundy broke the law and those officers were making a lawful seizure. He wasn't "protecting himself" because he wasn't in any danger.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Michael Brown was a robbery suspect before he was shot to death, police say

    Mike Browns accomplice in the robbery was a guy named Johnson. He is also one the the eye witnesses who was interviewed at the scene. What about his credibility as a witness?
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    Re: Michael Brown was a robbery suspect before he was shot to death, police say

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    In threads here yesterday, the cop was called a murderer, and executioner, a killer, and so on. It was as if his trial had already happened.
    I'll admit I called the act of shooting him after he surrendered murder - IF what the witnesses said were true. But now that I know the witness statement was from an accomplice and the other witnesses have rehearsed stories, I doubt their testimony thus far.

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    Re: Michael Brown was a robbery suspect before he was shot to death, police say

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Alleged ? There's video of him assaulting the store clerk.
    Which is why he deserved to be shot?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Michael Brown was a robbery suspect before he was shot to death, police say

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Which is why he deserved to be shot?
    No, but it casts severe doubt on the accomplice/witness's statement. Even by the accomplice's statement Brown struggled with the officer, and violently if material facts are to be taken into account.

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