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    Re: U.S. Dominates Chinese world university rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    You certainly cannot say the Chinese are stupid.



    Many of them are intelligent enough to want to go to school in the USA.

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    Re: U.S. Dominates Chinese world university rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by Hmm? View Post
    Also, the Chinese government... gives them job security after coming back.
    This actually isn't the case. I was in Beijing in June during China's 3-day Gaokao (national college entrance exam) and one of the big issues making the news at the time was the lack of jobs for college graduates. Unemployment and underemployment for recent graduates is a problem there.

    On a separate matter, a picture of the Great Wall at Jinshanling that I took while in China:


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    Re: U.S. Dominates Chinese world university rankings

    I went to a Chinese university once. 15 minutes later, I wanted to go again.

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    Re: U.S. Dominates Chinese world university rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    Most of the technical universities are bordering becoming obsolete today. They need to change and adapt if they want to serve the public further on but as the field of technology deepens and expands, they'll not just become obsolete, but they'll become a force for regression and stagnation. There is no reason why people should waste 4-5 years of their lives in an institution that is basically drying them and not letting people expand their wings fully.


    The germans are ofc, as they always been, ahead of the curve on this topic. They have generous and well structured internship and educational programs where students go into companies to learn adn work from the ground up, instead of heading to university. You learn much more and much faster and have access to the newest and greatest at the age of 18 or 19 rather than 23 or 24 when people finish up with college.
    Ofc, there is a better way to go about it. Universities should become a focus point of technological research funded by the state and their mission for education should become complementary. In other words, highschools should become the places where people discover themselves and what they love and want to do in life and universities should become the places where they can complement their workplace education with things that will benefit them both at work and in life. Like if you find out you wanna become a programmer in highschool, you go get an apprenticeship or an internship if you will at a company where you learn these things and then you enroll in college just to find specialized information, like for instance, learn about computer arhitecture to know more about the hardware part than the software part you get from work. Or learn about what's going on in the rest of the world of technology.

    But today, highschool is just the stupid dump which you have to go through to get to college where you actually find out what you want in life and waste a few more years. Pathetic. I blame the educational system for making me waste a few years of my life because it never helped me discover my talents or my ambitions, instead, it always enforced stupid, senseless norms based on an arbitrary definition. And like me, millions accross the world.
    It's unfit for this century. It was great until a few decades ago, until the computer revolution, it's unfit now.
    I am with you here. Spending too much time in HS is absolutely a waste of time. What is the point of learning so much stuff in order to get access to a university where your major may not be the direction you want to go in? In university, much time is spent on partying, dating and other activities which are not highly related to one's major, which is a waste of time IMO. With that being said, I am not opposed to the activities, I just think an undergraduate shall be clearer and more determined about the career path he /she wants to embark on. Wasting time is equivalent to committing suicide.
    It's well-documented that the education system is bloated today, with the skyrocketing number of universities and the increasing financial burden on the students. The government is well-informed about this yet can not deliver a consummate solution. And, ironically, it may try to benefit from the expansion of universities.
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    Re: U.S. Dominates Chinese world university rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    I went to a Chinese university once. 15 minutes later, I wanted to go again.
    Care to elaborate on this?
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    Re: U.S. Dominates Chinese world university rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Many of them are intelligent enough to want to go to school in the USA.
    **** them, if you get taught in America you better damn well repay her.

    I had a friend from china who's here in the good ol USA. If he goes back to china after he is done with high school and college I'll be the first to go after him.

    My dad came here and stayed here and payed taxes here after he capitalized on the freedoms of the states. These people are piss to come to the U.S and then do nothing in return after we give them an education.
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    Re: U.S. Dominates Chinese world university rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    This actually isn't the case. I was in Beijing in June during China's 3-day Gaokao (national college entrance exam) and one of the big issues making the news at the time was the lack of jobs for college graduates. Unemployment and underemployment for recent graduates is a problem there.

    On a separate matter, a picture of the Great Wall at Jinshanling that I took while in China:

    In the past, studying abroad is almost a privilege for the elites, whom were mostly funded by the government and therefore when they came back, they could easily get satisfying jobs in the institutes. It's not the case anymore. As you said, the lack of jobs, or quality jobs to be more exact, is being a nightmare for the graduates, which propel more parents to send their children overseas. It is a well-known fact that the majority of the Chinese universities are not good places to learn valuable skills or pursue an academic career due to a lot of reasons, one of which is that the teacher-student ratio is incredibly low. China is the country with the largest population, which starts to cost the Chinese in a number of ways after China's economical boost starting from the 1980s.
    There has been a feverish trend for Chinese students to study abroad, in hope of getting quality jobs after graduation. The government doesnt guarantee their jobs since they are not selected in the national programs but self-funded.
    At first glance, it may seem decent since more people have access to better education. However, since many of them are already victims of the stagnant education system, which force them to learn for 12 years, instead of providing opportunities for innovation, they have a hard time adapting to the western education. Given the fact that many of them are cramming rather than learning in the right way, they are often in a dilemma and some of them resort to hiring others to finish their assignments and papers.
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    Re: U.S. Dominates Chinese world university rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    **** them, if you get taught in America you better damn well repay her.

    I had a friend from china who's here in the good ol USA. If he goes back to china after he is done with high school and college I'll be the first to go after him.

    My dad came here and stayed here and payed taxes here after he capitalized on the freedoms of the states. These people are piss to come to the U.S and then do nothing in return after we give them an education.
    But China suffers the brain drain more than the US does. It's probably a rare case for someone who leaves the US for China. If you follow the news, you know that many rich Chinese try so hard to get US green cards and the average people condemn them for not returning enough to the society and walking away with wealth.
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    Re: U.S. Dominates Chinese world university rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by idea_steed View Post
    Care to elaborate on this?
    I think he is making a joke...comparing Chinese University to eating Chinese Food.

    The latter is generally thought of in the a West as a type of food that you will be hungry for more very shortly after you eat it.

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