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    Re: Putin says Russia should aim to sell energy in roubles

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I think you really believe these things. Of course I know the tape. But the thing was already under way and in deterioration at that time. There was only crisis management left to do. What the tape does show, is the utter despair of the way the EU had handled it. It was as bad as Genscher in Yugoslavia.
    Well yeah, having listened to them. And I'm not defending the EU's handling of things either.
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    Re: Putin says Russia should aim to sell energy in roubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    ....And I'm not defending the EU's handling of things either.
    That is wise.

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    Re: Putin says Russia should aim to sell energy in roubles

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    That is wise.
    My concern is with the US and its interventionist policies.

    "That's some pretty impressive tradecraft," said Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland of the interception and leak of her now-infamous call to US Ambassador to Ukraine Geoff Pyatt. The call consisted of the two plotting to install a US puppet government in Ukraine after overthrowing the current, democratically elected government.

    Tradecraft means "spycraft." In other words, Nuland was crediting a foreign intelligence service with impressive use of technology to be able to hack into her call to the ambassador. Everyone knew she was talking about Russia, partly because the Administration had been blaming Russia from the moment the recording was made public.
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    Re: Putin says Russia should aim to sell energy in roubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    My concern is with the US and its interventionist policies.

    "That's some pretty impressive tradecraft," said Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland of the interception and leak of her now-infamous call to US Ambassador to Ukraine Geoff Pyatt. The call consisted of the two plotting to install a US puppet government in Ukraine after overthrowing the current, democratically elected government.

    Tradecraft means "spycraft." In other words, Nuland was crediting a foreign intelligence service with impressive use of technology to be able to hack into her call to the ambassador. Everyone knew she was talking about Russia, partly because the Administration had been blaming Russia from the moment the recording was made public.
    Well, after the EU, the Russians did take the front seat on escalating this thing.

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    Re: Putin says Russia should aim to sell energy in roubles

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Well, after the EU, the Russians did take the front seat on escalating this thing.
    The Russians are responding to the US's intrigue. They are not the aggressors in this.
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    Re: Putin says Russia should aim to sell energy in roubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The Russians are responding to the US's intrigue. They are not the aggressors in this.
    Actually, the Russians were responding to Title 2, Article 7 of the misbegotten Trade Treaty with the EU.

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    Re: Putin says Russia should aim to sell energy in roubles

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Actually, the Russians were responding to Title 2, Article 7 of the misbegotten Trade Treaty with the EU.
    Want to elaborate.
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    Re: Putin says Russia should aim to sell energy in roubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Want to elaborate.
    It would be best to Google it. But it is a short segment describing how the EU and Ukraine will harmonize their military endeavor. It reads innocuous until you think about it.

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    Re: Putin says Russia should aim to sell energy in roubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The Russians are responding to the US's intrigue. They are not the aggressors in this.
    So, it's the fault of the US that Putin decided to annex Crimea and try to do the same with the Ukraine?
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    Re: Putin says Russia should aim to sell energy in roubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    So, it's the fault of the US that Putin decided to annex Crimea and try to do the same with the Ukraine?
    Essentially. You've been here all along. Along with the rest of us, didn't you witness Russia, in response to the Maiden Square riots that toppled the Ukrainian government, move into Crimea to secure Russia's assets and people?
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