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    Re: The Outlook For Germany In One Word: 'Grim'

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    We know that Germany has been the economic engine that has been sustaining a great part of the EU with it's productivity and exports. It's because of this that a number of the smaller economies were bailed out during the recession and financial bubble explosion. In fact, isn't it true that many EU economies are still on Germany funded life-support?

    This being the case, and now Germany's economy under threat from the Russia / Ukraine / EU crisis and sanctions, how are the Germany supported economies going to fare? Are they going to back slide back into recession or have their recoveries go anemic?

    I'm thinking likely so. So Russia and Putin, and their adventurism has brought the next recession / financial stress not only on their our country, Russia, but also on the EU.

    This needs to be resolved, and resolved quickly. It would seem to make sense to double and / or triple the level of the sanctions on the short term, and forcing this conflict to a speedy close, before those who are dependent on the Russian LPG experience the coming Winter. Let's face it, Russia is hardly on solid financial ground, and would likely be forced to cave in within a few short months, should the sanctions be severe enough.
    George Soros has gone on record saying that Germany will be in recession by September, which will make life difficult for the countries that depend on them to keep the EU train moving. He faults them for not aggressively pushing QE, but I sure don't see how that's a long-term solution. Our Fed has used QE to try and prop up our economy, but look at the panic which ensues when they hint they may scale back. As nearly as I can figure, only the big banks benefit from QE - so what agenda does Soros have, other than one-world-government, with he and a few others at the top making all the decisions for everyone worldwide?

    Greetings, Erik.

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    Re: The Outlook For Germany In One Word: 'Grim'

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    She didn't do it alone, she spearheaded the activity that led to the fall of Yanukovych.

    Few people have the courage enough to face the truth and blame themselves for their own misfortune, IF they are actually to blame.
    I feel confident that Victoria Nuwell, if I have her name right, will be quite impressed that she was able to bring down an entire continent on her own. It will be a story for her grandchildren.

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    Re: The Outlook For Germany In One Word: 'Grim'

    Quote Originally Posted by Raven1 View Post
    Can you say "nuclear"? Solar power has boosted the German economy well past expectations. Roosevelt and Truman cohorts taught those Germans pretty well how to run an economy, and they already knew that "free trade" was bogus. Now, you want to look at our economy (U.S.) and tell me what you think? Ever heard of Alexander Hamilton and his trade policies (whose economic policies our Founding Fathers adhered to)? And why Jefferson hated him so much?

    It wasn't so that you could ostensibly build coal factories in Germany.

    LOL !!!

    Are you serious ? Solar is a joke, its ALWAYS been a joke.

    The German Finance Minister just declared it a complete failure.

    Germany's own Government had to admit what a STUPID iniative it was.

    Because Solar and Wind has to be subsidized so heavily by the tax payer, German citizens now pay 300 percent higher utility rates than Americans do.

    And now Germany's dependant on Coal to fill in the gaps that come with Solar and Wind.

    So for 3 times what we pay for electricity, they get dirtier air.

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    Re: The Outlook For Germany In One Word: 'Grim'

    845. Another way to weaken the Euro (7/21/2014)

    The energy supply of Europe is heavily dependent on Russia. About one third to 40% of its natural gas and oil are imported from Russia. One important gas pipe is inside Ukraine. If there is a turmoil in Ukraine, the gas supply to Europe will be affected. The economy of Europe would be weakened, so be the Euro. That’s why we saw an upheaval in Ukraine.

    Ron Paul Defends Russia After Malaysian Plane Crash
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    By Colin Campbell Jul 21, 2014,

    One of those unreported things, Paul claimed in his weekly "Texas Straight Talk" column, was the United States' own responsibility for destabilizing the region. Ukraine is currently embroiled in violent conflict between the Ukrainian government and the pro-Russian separatists.

    "They will not report that the crisis in Ukraine started late last year, when EU and US-supported protesters plotted the overthrow of the elected Ukrainian president, Viktor Yanukovych.

    Without US-sponsored 'regime change,' it is unlikely that hundreds would have been killed in the unrest that followed. Nor would the Malaysian Airlines crash have happened," Paul wrote.

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ron-pa...151731466.html
    Here EU used to be a follower of the US. I think the Europeans have sensed the coming danger the US will bring to them. German is a major power of EU. Recently, German has twice revealed two US spy cases and eventually expelled a CIA intelligence official. That’s unusual.

    Germany Demands Top U.S. Intelligence Officer Be Expelled
    Posted 10 July 2014 - 07:36 PM

    BERLIN — Germany’s relations with the United States plunged to a low point Thursday, with the government demanding the expulsion of the chief American intelligence official stationed here because, it said, Washington has refused to cooperate with German inquiries into United States intelligence activities.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/11/wo...icer.html?_r=1
    I would say German has sensed (or with its state ability, having the intelligence) that US would sacrifice European’s economy by creating a crisis in Europe. It could be terror attack; or war. The deportation of US intelligence official is just a warning or protest of disagreement. Several days later, Malaysia airliner MH17 was down in Ukraine.

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    Re: The Outlook For Germany In One Word: 'Grim'

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    LOL !!!

    Are you serious ? Solar is a joke, its ALWAYS been a joke.

    The German Finance Minister just declared it a complete failure.

    Germany's own Government had to admit what a STUPID iniative it was.

    Because Solar and Wind has to be subsidized so heavily by the tax payer, German citizens now pay 300 percent higher utility rates than Americans do.

    And now Germany's dependant on Coal to fill in the gaps that come with Solar and Wind.

    So for 3 times what we pay for electricity, they get dirtier air.
    This folly was also carried out in Spain, we just KNOW how well they are doing thanks to all the green jobs and wind farms. BUCKETS OF HOPE AND CHANGE!

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    Re: The Outlook For Germany In One Word: 'Grim'

    Quote Originally Posted by katsung47 View Post
    845. Another way to weaken the Euro (7/21/2014)

    The energy supply of Europe is heavily dependent on Russia. About one third to 40% of its natural gas and oil are imported from Russia. One important gas pipe is inside Ukraine. If there is a turmoil in Ukraine, the gas supply to Europe will be affected. The economy of Europe would be weakened, so be the Euro. That’s why we saw an upheaval in Ukraine.



    Here EU used to be a follower of the US. I think the Europeans have sensed the coming danger the US will bring to them. German is a major power of EU. Recently, German has twice revealed two US spy cases and eventually expelled a CIA intelligence official. That’s unusual.

    I would say German has sensed (or with its state ability, having the intelligence) that US would sacrifice European’s economy by creating a crisis in Europe. It could be terror attack; or war. The deportation of US intelligence official is just a warning or protest of disagreement. Several days later, Malaysia airliner MH17 was down in Ukraine.
    Let europe deal with europe, lets see how they like Russia.

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    Re: The Outlook For Germany In One Word: 'Grim'

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    This folly was also carried out in Spain, we just KNOW how well they are doing thanks to all the green jobs and wind farms. BUCKETS OF HOPE AND CHANGE!
    I read a report where Russia is supporting Green Energy in Europe rather than oil and gas exploration, or fracking, in order to keep Europe dependent on Russian gas. They understand these green programs are a long time away from ever working. According to this report the clever Russians are the main supporter of Green Peace also.

    I'll try to find it.

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    Re: The Outlook For Germany In One Word: 'Grim'

    Hey, they may not work, but all those huge propellers look absolutely beautiful along the countryside.

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    Re: The Outlook For Germany In One Word: 'Grim'

    That's how US manipulate this world, including its ally.

    The Chart Obama Does Not Want Merkel To See
    Submitted by Tyler Durden on 09/02/2014


    Since sanctions began the plunge in Euro-Area PMIs has been commensurate with the rise in Russia's (oh and according to survey-data, US is as good as it has ever been)...

    The Chart Obama Does Not Want Merkel To See | Zero Hedge

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    Re: The Outlook For Germany In One Word: 'Grim'

    Thnx god people who really do economics doesn't read newspapers.
    Envidia te mata !!!

    The blind leading the blind !!!


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