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    re: Snowden embraces American flag in WIRED photo shoot[W:511]

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    So no answer. Awesome. There was a lawsuit against duke lacrosse players too. Big deal.
    I've already answered. You've shown nothing but blind faith and a utter failure of proof. Which is why I can now go do something else. When you have something other than your own opinion let me know, won't ya?
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    re: Snowden embraces American flag in WIRED photo shoot[W:511]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    That suggests superficial analysis, which is always incomplete.

    For example, the case is pretty solid that AQ is a creature of our very own CIA, so "spying" on them is somehow irrelevant and misleading.
    Actually the idea that the CIA created al-Qa'ida is just a cover story. The CIA is too obvious.


    REALLY (gosh, I"m going to lose my clearance for this).... really.......... it was a joint venture between the big banks and the masons.

    Please do not tell anyone I let that slip.

    As to spying on the Chinese, no I do not consider that to be a crime.
    So happy to see you say so. Why do you think Snowden gave them reams of information in how we go about doing so?

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    re: Snowden embraces American flag in WIRED photo shoot[W:511]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    That suggests superficial analysis, which is always incomplete.

    For example, the case is pretty solid that AQ is a creature of our very own CIA . . . .
    Blithering nonsense.
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    re: Snowden embraces American flag in WIRED photo shoot[W:511]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I've already answered. You've shown nothing but blind faith and a utter failure of proof. Which is why I can now go do something else. When you have something other than your own opinion let me know, won't ya?
    Err...No. I asked for a yes or no. You're answer? A lawsuit has been initiated.
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    re: Snowden embraces American flag in WIRED photo shoot[W:511]

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Err...No. I asked for a yes or no. You're answer? A lawsuit has been initiated.
    You no read so good eh?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham
    The current ACLU lawsuit has not been found wrong... No.
    I answered No in case you missed it again. I see still no proof.... shocking!
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    re: Snowden embraces American flag in WIRED photo shoot[W:511]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Because the government won't provide the information required for a trial.

    "Shubert v. Obama is a class action on behalf of all Americans against the government, alleging a massive, indiscriminate, illegal National Security Agency (NSA) dragnet of the phone calls and email of tens of millions of ordinary Americans. Filed in 2006, Shubert is now the longest running case against the government seeking to stop the domestic spying program. Shubert also seeks to hold accountable the architects of the dragnet, including NSA Director General Keith B. Alexander, former NSA Director General Michael V. Hayden, former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, and former Attorney General John Ashcroft. For seven years, the government sought to dismiss the case on state secrets grounds, arguing that federal courts are powerless to stop even illegal government action implicating national security..."


    "...The Obama administration moved to dismiss Jewel in 2009, claiming that litigation over the wiretapping program would require the government to disclose privileged “state secrets” and that it was immune from suit.... "
    https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying


    "ACLU v. NSA:...In July 2007, the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals dismissed the case, ruling the plaintiffs in the case - which included scholars, journalists, and national nonprofit organizations - had no standing to sue because they could not state with certainty that they have been wiretapped by the NSA..."
    https://www.aclu.org/national-securi...illegal-spying
    both of those links are from anti-nsa/spying organizations of course thats what they will claim. Would you honestly believe that the ACLU would admit that its own lawsuit was baseless?

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    re: Snowden embraces American flag in WIRED photo shoot[W:511]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    You no read so good eh?



    I answered No in case you missed it again. I see still no proof.... shocking!
    No one asked that.
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    re: Snowden embraces American flag in WIRED photo shoot[W:511]

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    No one asked that.
    You asked and I answered. Don't get butthurt because I didn't fall for your failure of a trick question. Now.... how about that proof?
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    re: Snowden embraces American flag in WIRED photo shoot[W:511]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    You asked and I answered. Don't get butthurt because I didn't fall for your failure of a trick question. Now.... how about that proof?
    I asked yes or no...

    You didn't answer...

    That's kinda damning...

    That's why this legal activity continues lol

    But lol I'm sure you'll be mad about it.
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    re: Snowden embraces American flag in WIRED photo shoot[W:511]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    You have no firickin' way of knowing that. You've convinced your government-hating little mind that the NSA files only contained the crap you want to believe it contained. It was the National Security Agency, for Christ's sake! It contained government secrets dealing with the security of the United States - the country you profess to love. But go ahead and continue the worshipping of the weak-assed traitor.

    Screw it. I'm done arguing this with you and your country-hating, Snowden-loving crowd. Enjoy each other.
    The only ones who hate their country are scumbags who thinks it is alright if our government wipes its **** covered ass with the Constitution in order to spy on the people.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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